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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 1 day ago #89343

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Any of you have both Saberforge and Vader's Vault dual diffused blades? If yes, can you give some pros and cons of VV blades?
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 1 day ago #89356

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So, SF's V4 Infinity Edge blade is a "smoked"/opaque polycarbonate that gives a nice mix between the brightness of a clear blade and the fullness of a trans-white (ultraedge) blade. They only sell it in heavy-grade thickness with pointed/bullet tips that are threaded in. The diffusion film is also glued in.

VV's offers blades with both heavy (thick wall) and mid grade (thin wall) thicknesses. Mid grade is lighter and brighter than heavy grade, but not as durable. Heavy grade is required by most dueling groups. VV also offers both rounded or bullet tips, and the they are chemically bonded to the blade with Weld-On 3 (rather than superglued). They also don't glue the blade film, which allows it to flex rather than crinkle when dueling. "Shine-through" tips are also offered; a little hole is drilled in the middle of the reflective disc on the bottom of the tip that allows more light to pass through to the tip. It helps make the tip more evenly lit, but is a bit of a hazard if you point it at someone's face (they're banned from dueling groups like TSL).

VV offers blades in either clear or trans-white... with their special "dual diffusion", which is basically sanding of the outside of the blade. This is the main hallmark of their blades. I don't really see the point of it on a trans-white blade, but it's great on the clear blades. It pretty much does what the SF blade material does and puts it at a nice balance between a clear and a white blade in making the blade appear "fuller" while not having the drawbacks of trans-white (dimmer and washes out under lighting easily). I had a bunch of blades from US that I've since sanded in the VV style.
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 23 hours ago #89362

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VV's standard dual diffused blades are thin wall blades whereas the SF V4 Infinity is a thick wall blade. If you are medium to hard dueler, then the Infinity is better. I prefer the VV standard dual diffused because I am not much of a dueler so a thin wall blade helps with brightness/diffusion a little better. It's not a big deal.

However, there is one blade that VV sells that is a winner: the Photon Blade. This produces a bright acid green that is close to Luke's thin neck green in TLJ. You need a 12W+ Medium Blue or 12W+ Deep Blue LED to stimulate the Photon green blade. This is my single favorite blade by any manufacturer.
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 20 hours ago #89366

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KelbornX wrote:
So, SF's V4 Infinity Edge blade is a "smoked"/opaque polycarbonate that gives a nice mix between the brightness of a clear blade and the fullness of a trans-white (ultraedge) blade. They only sell it in heavy-grade thickness with pointed/bullet tips that are threaded in. The diffusion film is also glued in.

VV's offers blades with both heavy (thick wall) and mid grade (thin wall) thicknesses. Mid grade is lighter and brighter than heavy grade, but not as durable. Heavy grade is required by most dueling groups. VV also offers both rounded or bullet tips, and the they are chemically bonded to the blade with Weld-On 3 (rather than superglued). They also don't glue the blade film, which allows it to flex rather than crinkle when dueling. "Shine-through" tips are also offered; a little hole is drilled in the middle of the reflective disc on the bottom of the tip that allows more light to pass through to the tip. It helps make the tip more evenly lit, but is a bit of a hazard if you point it at someone's face (they're banned from dueling groups like TSL).

VV offers blades in either clear or trans-white... with their special "dual diffusion", which is basically sanding of the outside of the blade. This is the main hallmark of their blades. I don't really see the point of it on a trans-white blade, but it's great on the clear blades. It pretty much does what the SF blade material does and puts it at a nice balance between a clear and a white blade in making the blade appear "fuller" while not having the drawbacks of trans-white (dimmer and washes out under lighting easily). I had a bunch of blades from US that I've since sanded in the VV style.

I was considering to buy a dual diffused 1' trans white VV blade, since i heard that it is significantly bright over other blades. Is the difference not that big?
BANE mk2, Champion, Black/chrome, Deep red
ARBITER, Champion, Weathered, Blood orange
ERIS, Warrior, Dual tone, Indigo
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 19 hours ago #89367

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Execute66 wrote:
VV's standard dual diffused blades are thin wall blades whereas the SF V4 Infinity is a thick wall blade. If you are medium to hard dueler, then the Infinity is better. I prefer the VV standard dual diffused because I am not much of a dueler so a thin wall blade helps with brightness/diffusion a little better. It's not a big deal.

However, there is one blade that VV sells that is a winner: the Photon Blade. This produces a bright acid green that is close to Luke's thin neck green in TLJ. You need a 12W+ Medium Blue or 12W+ Deep Blue LED to stimulate the Photon green blade. This is my single favorite blade by any manufacturer.

I really like the photon blades and buy one of them from VV but i do not own a blue-related hilt :) But when i get "that" hilt; i'll definately buy that blade, seems very charming.
BANE mk2, Champion, Black/chrome, Deep red
ARBITER, Champion, Weathered, Blood orange
ERIS, Warrior, Dual tone, Indigo
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 12 hours ago #89374

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keremcan wrote:
I was considering to buy a dual diffused 1' trans white VV blade, since i heard that it is significantly bright over other blades. Is the difference not that big?

No trans-white blade will be "brighter" than another blade. They will always be dimmer due to the material, when compared to a clear/other blade of the same thickness (thin wall vs thin wall, etc). What they are, however, is "fuller" looking. Some people will wrongly call this "brighter" because they're seeing more light and color spread out along the blade.
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 2 hours ago #89405

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If I may add, TCSS and VV blades are the same.
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SF vs VV blades? 2 weeks 1 hour ago #89409

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Darth Tabarnak wrote:
If I may add, TCSS and VV blades are the same.

Blade stock/material, yes. Complete blades, no.

VV complete blades use standard diffusion film and are as previously mentioned "dual diffused" via sanding of the outside.

TCSS complete blades use either that odd Corbin film (which is super dim but gives a tapered look) or uses that plastic diffusion tube that also sucks. I've had both types of blades from TCSS and was not impressed.
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SF vs VV blades? 5 days 10 hours ago #89756

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I agree with KelbornX, TCSS blades are nothing to write home about. I personally prefer thin walled blades as I just spin sabers and don't enjoy dueling with them
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SF vs VV blades? 5 days 9 hours ago #89757

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I mostly meant "made from the same manufacturer", I forgot about TCSS "complete" blade option which is nonsense to me since you buy the 3 parts for half the price and make your own...

In other words, for 1" or 7/8" blades, you take TCSS transludent thick-walled tubes and tips, sand them, and you have the same thing VV uses (of course, the glue and diffusion films are each your own, they use Weld-On #3 for the tip).
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