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US Apprentice Overhaul 1 month 2 weeks ago #87717

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You need an MHS heatsink? I have one, PM me if you do.
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US Apprentice Overhaul 1 month 2 weeks ago #87720

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Jas-Ot wrote:
You need an MHS heatsink? I have one, PM me if you do.

I'll probably end up waiting, I don't have a credit card or a PayPal, so payment would be a complication, and I want to get parts in bulk as I can afford them. Thank you though. :)


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US Apprentice Overhaul 1 month 2 weeks ago #87722

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You don't need the MHS heatsink, in fact it won't work. That's designed to work with the MHS blade holders that TCSS sells, it won't even work with UltraSabers "MHS" emitters. But, your hilt is a single piece, only the pommel is MHS compatible. For that saber, you need this one:

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Heatsink-module-for-1-ID-tubes-P1027.aspx

Or, realistically, any heat sink with flat sides designed to go into a 1" blade holder. I've used that exact one in a few builds, including some UltraSabers low end hilts. They work great. Though, one time I even used an UltraSabers heatsink in a SaberForge hilt, because I have several of them laying about.
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US Apprentice Overhaul 1 month 22 hours ago #88635

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So the MPS Pommel 8 is still out of stock on TCSS. I want to get the pommel and D-Ring plate with my next order so I can start the weathering and shattering process on the saber. If it's not in within the next couple weeks, I'll have to settle on a different one.

I have a couple options in mind for substitutes, but nothing is set in stone yet, including price. I'd like to keep this batch under $100 again like the last one, but that might not be possible. We'll see.

MPS Style 4 is always an option. However, it won't add any additional length to the saber, which would be a bit of a shame.

Style 5 is an option, but I'm not really sure if the ergonomics really go with the rest of the hilt.

There is also the blank pommel, which I could theoretically do some sanding and cutting on to restyle it. However, I'd prefer to avoid doing that if at all possible.


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US Apprentice Overhaul 4 weeks 2 days ago #88747

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I'm playing with the idea of adding some inscripted runes into the hilt in Sith Common, since this build is based on the Acolyte Lightsaber in SWTOR that Jsuudi Arceane picks up early on. I rather like this idea, since it was the last lightsaber that he used to cut down all manner of foes during his earlier, more bloodthirsty days as a Padawan before becoming more honorable and merciful.

Perhaps carving "PASSION" or "VICTORY" into the switch area with the dremel, or something? Is that dumb, or should I give it a shot?


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US Apprentice Overhaul 4 weeks 2 days ago #88775

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Passion... do passion, but make yourself a good stencil.
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US Apprentice Overhaul 4 weeks 2 days ago #88779

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Rhyno wrote:
Passion... do passion, but make yourself a good stencil.

I was going to try to freehand it, but a stencil isn't the worst idea if I can make one that will both wrap around the hilt and be strong enough to resist the dremel.

EDIT: Should I use the Sith Prophecy font as seen here? Or should I stick with Galactic Basic Aurebesh, as seen here?


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US Apprentice Overhaul 4 weeks 2 days ago #88783

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Hello Master Eddlyss,

If you can make a stencil then I recommend the Sith Prophecy font, it was what I used on my Klingon inspired "Grethor" and "B'Elanna" hilts.

Looks ancient and not as immediately recognisable as Aurabesh does.

just my 0.2 cents.

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US Apprentice Overhaul 4 weeks 2 days ago #88788

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I'd go with the Sith Prophecy font, since "Passion" is part of the Sith code.
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US Apprentice Overhaul 4 weeks 2 days ago #88809

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Thanks guys, I'll be sure to use that font then, I figured that I would want to use the Sith Prophecy font anyway.


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US Apprentice Overhaul 3 weeks 2 days ago #89136

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So I'm heading to my local hardware store once again tomorrow to get some paint and a tap set for tapping thumbscrew holes. What size set should I get? I'll need to to tap an LED setscrew.


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US Apprentice Overhaul 3 weeks 2 days ago #89139

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If you want the set screw to be the same size as the blade retention screw, it needs to be 8-32.
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Thanks SFD, what about length? I'm looking at this screw, I assume I'll need to sand it down a bit, or is this length fine?


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US Apprentice Overhaul 3 weeks 2 days ago #89141

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Grab some metal files (the small ones) while you're there. They make shortening screws much easier than "sanding", especially if you have a vice you can put the screw in.

Usually they sell the tap the drill bit in a set. If not, you need the #8-32 tap and a #29 drill bit. You also need a tap handle if you want to hand tap; I find it to be more accurate than using a drill for the tapping on small holes like this.
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US Apprentice Overhaul 3 weeks 2 days ago #89142

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KelbornX wrote:
Grab some metal files (the small ones) while you're there. They make shortening screws much easier than "sanding", especially if you have a vice you can put the screw in.

Usually they sell the tap the drill bit in a set. If not, you need the #8-32 tap and a #29 drill bit. You also need a tap handle if you want to hand tap; I find it to be more accurate than using a drill for the tapping on small holes like this.

Thanks, I'll be sure to grab some metal files. That's a good idea.

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US Apprentice Overhaul 3 weeks 1 day ago #89176

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So I got a file and my drill and tap bits, but what size tap wrench do I need?


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US Apprentice Overhaul 3 weeks 1 day ago #89185

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Just one like this is good enough. TCSS sells them too, if you can't find it local or don't want to use Amazon lol.

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00004YOB0/
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US Apprentice Overhaul 2 weeks 22 hours ago #89638

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I finally got around to opening the second batch of parts, which came in yesterday. Have a look at what the current saber will look like (minus the internals and paint job, of course.



And a pommel 'glam shot:'



As for the pommel...eh. I'm not a fan of it personally, at least on this saber. Doesn't flow with the rest of the hilt's aesthetic, if you ask me, and I was really hoping to get something that tapered off at the end. But it's what I've got to work with, because I'm not making another TCSS purchase just for one blasted part. Maybe it'll look better when the saber is all painted up, maybe not.

Anyway, I think it's safe to say that this project won't be done in time for the contest. I still need to get a speaker, and by that line of thought I might as well get a new blade and blade plug, as well, so I'll be making a Saberforge purchase as soon as I've got enough coin saved up again.


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US Apprentice Overhaul 2 weeks 21 hours ago #89642

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I like that insert with the D-Ring a lot, I've considered buying it before. Your pics are much better than the boring product images on the site, since you have it in a real environment and it's on a saber. I agree, the pommel isn't the best choice for the hilt, but it's not terrible either. Unfortunately, out of stocks can be a real pain when you want to order something.
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I like that insert with the D-Ring a lot, I've considered buying it before. Your pics are much better than the boring product images on the site, since you have it in a real environment and it's on a saber. I agree, the pommel isn't the best choice for the hilt, but it's not terrible either. Unfortunately, out of stocks can be a real pain when you want to order something.

Agreed on out of stock annoyance, especially when the part you originally wanted goes back in stock the day after you order... :angry: Oh, well. It does offer a bit of extra grip at the end of the hilt, which isn't the worst thing for single saber dueling.

And thanks for the D-Ring thoughts. I haven't decided if I want to switch out my upcoming Xiphos' covertech with a D-Ring or just leave it yet, and I wanted to clear up room for handling this Apprentice anyway. So it was just kind of a no-brainer for me, and I honestly really dig how it makes the pommel look. Reminds me of a more streamlined and modern-ish Graflex D-Ring, more centered and symmetrical. Two things I was looking for in this project.


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