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The K4 vs MK1 - which OB1 hilt - Comparison Review 1 week 4 days ago #87618

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"I want to get an Obi-Wan hilt, but I'm not sure which one to get..."

This question gets asked A LOT, I've seen it more times than I can count on the FB groups, forums, and even gets asked personally from time to time. So, I thought I'd do a little comparison to help those folks who are looking for that knockout Obi-Wan ANH style saber to add to their collection.

Before I get to the meat of the comparison a bit a preface. As someone who installs and "builds" sabers I see lots of empty hilts, all of varying degrees of construction, price, and in the case of canon hilts - accuracy. Not too long ago I started classifying empties into three categories:

Economic - Price range up to $150 - these are hilts that are




You can't see it to well in the picture, but the MK1 does have the holes in the inner ring, the ring it just black in this case.








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The K4 vs MK1 - which OB1 hilt to get 1 week 4 days ago #87619

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What you get and don't get:

MK1

The MK1 is the king of screen accuracy when it comes to the ANH version of Obi-Wan's lightsaber and as such features faithful reproductions of the actual found parts used to build the original saber. Some of the highlights:

-- Stamped Graflex Clamp relica
-- Exactra 19-20 bubble card replica
-- Sink Knob replica without vents
-- integrated heatsink and 1" thin wall blade holder
-- Minimum of .99" ID, under clamp much wider - this allows for full size speakers
-- sound venting through clamp and natural venting on the reproduction parts

As for negatives, well the biggest thing is of course the price. As of this writing the various versions available are on sale for between $388 and $489 (The one pictured is the "Weathered" version at $401). Due to the lack of sound venting through the pommel this isn't the loudest saber out there, but when we compare it to the K4 that's a moot point, read on....

K4

Considering there are other Obi-Wan hilts at not much less than the K4 that have nowhere near the same level of detail or attempt to screen accuracy, it's price point really stands out for what you get:

-- Pretty darn close to screen accurate all the way around
-- Transistors are functional and can be used as switch hats. The Graflex clamp has precut holes for them to be inserted and matches up with a channel milled into the main body to hold switches
-- Comes with blade holders for both 1" and 7/8" blades.
-- Emitter can easily be "sanded" down for the exact look you want. Going from near black to shiny
-- PRICE

The negatives, first off it's not "100% screen accurate". The sink knob is a bit too large, and lacks some of the detail, the neck is a bit too long, no stamp on the clamp. Using a 7/8" blade requires mounting the LED directly in the blade holder as the heat sink. Not so much a negative just a reality. For a 1" blade, buying a heat sink that fits inside the blade is recommended (Saberbay on Etsy). Even if it's not 100% screen accurate, it's honestly pretty damn close, and at $225 its really hard to beat with the level of detail for the money spent. Like most Korbanth hilts, it is 7/8" ID, and in this case all the way through. Plenty of install options and chassis available, but you are limited to a 20mm speaker which doesn't make it as loud. But as mentioned above, strictly comparing between the MK1 and K4, that can be a bit of a moot point depending on how the MK1 is installed.

My final say:

The K4 is a GREAT choice if you have a budget. Nothing else that I am aware of as of this writing comes close near it's price point. If you want a reasonably priced Obi-Wan saber that is close enough to the actual prop, then snag a K4. A completed one will likely run you between $550 and $750 depending on internals used.

If your budget is bigger, then the Mk1 is the way to go. You just can't beat it's level of screen accuracy unless you build one out of vintage parts (which BTW is insanely hard to find some of the parts). It's not uncommon for these guys to very quickly exceed the $1000 mark just in the parts alone and a full blown installed one to command prices over the $1500 mark.
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The K4 vs MK1 - which OB1 hilt to get 1 week 4 days ago #87624

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Excellent write-up! :woohoo: B)
Imagine what you will know tomorrow....
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You, sir, are a wealth of information.

I’ve been looking to get a K4 for some time. As much as I love the MK1, it’s on the pricey side for me. The 7/8 ID on the K4 gave me pause at first, but the chassis options available for it should make it a nonissue.
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Honestly, the 20mm speaker isn't that bad. Yeah it's not as loud as say a 28mm 2watt 4ohm from Adrian Tan, but then again nothing is. I think you will be VERY happy with the K4. Apparently the 20mm speakers Naigon sells are a bit superior to the ones on TCSS, I personally haven't tried them but that's what I hear (I plan to order some)

Vech can attest to that I believe.
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Jas-Ot wrote:
Honestly, the 20mm speaker isn't that bad.
:dry: the 20mm speaker isn't that great either.. However yes, in some cases, its output is still more favourable then even some 28mm speakers..
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OvrcAHst wrote:
Jas-Ot wrote:
Honestly, the 20mm speaker isn't that bad.
:dry: the 20mm speaker isn't that great either.. However yes, in some cases, its output is still more favourable then even some 28mm speakers..

Yeah but you like your sabers LOUD AF. :P

I full expect to one day be trying to figure out how to mount a 1000w amplifier and speaker into a hilt for you..... Gonna turn it up to 11!!!!
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I have a build coming up with a hilt I bought from a shop on Etsy, and the ID of the hilt is only 25mm, so I'm going to be able to weigh in on the 20mm speaker debate eventually. ;)

Though, the whole speaker/loudness thing isn't all that big a deal to me personally. I don't even have sound on all of my sabers.
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There are 23 and 24mm speakers available :)
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Yeah, I was thinking of looking into a 24, to at least get the most out of that hilt's ID.
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Great info Jas.....I've been eyeing a K4 build for awhile now but then the Count came out, and then the L6 came out and I can only get one right now....ugh, choices, lol.

Although the more i see pics & reviews on the L6, the more I'm leaning toward doing that build.......
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The LS6 is a really cool hilt. It's REALLY darn close to screen accurate (more so to the TLJ hero), and has some really cool features that make overlooking some of the not so screen accurate elements easier. Rick of Goth-3Designs has been working on some chassis for it, and I believe Dmitry of ShtokCustom Works is as well. I'd expect some nice chassis options within the next couple of weeks. I'm waiting to see what they come up with before I do an install on mine. I may scratch build a chassis for it along with CC if there isn't a chassis available I like.
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Are either of these suitable for mid-heavy dueling, free or choreographed? I'm just curious.


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Eddlyss64 wrote:
Are either of these suitable for mid-heavy dueling, free or choreographed? I'm just curious.

I wouldn't risk it. They are both fairly sturdy hilts but they are not designed to be a combat saber. They are best suited to light contact, and I wouldn't want even a choreographed "fight" to damage a saber like these.
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I have both. Roman's Mk1 is the better hilt. The Korbanth K4 is a very fine hilt but it's not quite the level of the Mk1. If price is a factor, then the K4 is good value.
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The K4 vs MK1 - which OB1 hilt - Comparison Review 1 week 2 days ago #87762

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I would agree overall if you don't factor price into the mix that the MK1 is the "better" of the two. But, the price point of the K4 makes it VERY attractive. As I said in the Comparison Review, the majority of folks out there aren't going to know the subtle differences. The MK1 to me is a true "collector's" hilt in the sense that you have to be something of a saber snob and or a accuracy nut to shell out the $$ for one. Which is perfectly fine, I am those things hence why I have one :-)
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I have both as I said, so I ain't no snob. :P The Mk1 is a heavier hilt and the machining on mine appears more refined than the K4 (minor scuff marks from the factory = Jedi battle marks :lol: ) As a thin neck fan, I would not want to do without either or both.
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