TOPIC: Question about reborn

Hi all,

@ Kirabi, you are correct, you would probably lose the Flash on Clash option if you went for one Solid 12W+ colour but you would still have Blade Flicker. The main benefit would be the multiple soundfonts.
I don't think many people go for this option as it isn't advertised very prominently, but I like to show people the options.
I only remembered about it because I check back every now and then to read the FAQ's.

Thanks for your good input,

For Tyeth

I only think it would be an option if it wasn't the full $150 extra for the (psuedo?) upgrade. I'd still argue for the NB up to a point, but really, truly I don't think it's worth it.

I'm not really even a fan of paying so much for a champion upgrade. I wish I'd popped for it for my ASP but beyond a first saber it's much more worth it to invest in gaining the skill to install your own sound boards. I understand that each saber includes the installation cost of the boards and such, but when you ( specifically I ) don't need RGBA or FoC, the NB does everything I need including customizable fonts and a really nice 'shimmer' on clash and flicker. Aaaaand it's only $70 for the brand newest of models.

Anyways, this is not what this post was about but I'd be super glad to field any pms or to see a discussion post about this pop up somewhere else.

For Tyeth wrote:
Wow, I never knew that and thank you for mentioning it. In that case however, the extra cost of $150 does not seem worth it just for extra sound fonts. The $150 is really the required cost for the RGB option.

This goes back to my point above that SF should have Champion Tier 3 that is already including multiple sound fonts (which many other saber companies do have on the level below RGB). Or maybe have Champion Tier 3A = one sound font and Champion Tier 3B = a few sound fonts as per Tier 4 for a small extra cost. If Champion Tier 3B is offered, then I am almost sure it will not be an extra $150.

For Tyeth thank you for the link to that video, that answered my question.


I guess my next question would be - if I am going to send it back in and have it powder coated does it matter what finish I order now?


This is a tough decision - on one hand I like the reborn non-asp model better because the rails/claws are one piece but Im not a huge fan of the pommel. If you switch out some of the pommels on the asp builder with the reborn some of the combos you can come up with are great. Pommel #5 and #6 look amazing on the reborn.

Execute66 wrote:
That's what Sabercore 3.0 is going to be. Plus having a board with single un-swappable soundfont isn't unique to SF. There's also the Pico Crumble by Plector Labs.

Jaden Korr wrote:
That's the only hesitation I have about ordering a saber this weekend. Grrrr. Wish we knew a ballpark on it coming out.

oops double post... Thx for all the responses guys!

Burns3558 wrote: I image it would be best to have it be all silver.

You could always order a reborn off of the main site (or through the custom shop if you are getting it powder coated through them anyway) and ask for a different pommel. That way you can have the single piece claws and the unique blade plug which (at the moment anyway) isn't an option for ASP.

Jaden Korr wrote:
I can't speak for SF, but typically when an object is PC'd, it's media blasted. Any finishes or paint are blasted away revealing bare raw material. The only thing I can imagine would impact this would be if it was the battle-damaged weathering.

Someone from SF feel free to correct me. That's how all the parts on the drift car got PC'd

BoostinIX wrote:
SF uses black anodizing for their dual tone and weathered sabers, which can be stripped using chemicals but won't ever go completely away (it is essentially dying the aluminum). Depending on whether or not the powder coating Burns3558 selects has a translucent finish (like black chrome), this can affect how it turns out.

Jaden Korr wrote:
Learn somethin new every day.

Kirabi wrote:
The main draw of the Naigon soundboards (like the Spark Color 2 SF uses for Hero sabers, which goes for about $116) is that new features can be added via software updates. Their most recent one added delayed ignition for the quillons (side blades) in a cross guard saber. If I ever pick up one of SF's crossguards, I'll put a Naigon Spark 2 (which goes for around $80) in it. And from what I've seen, Naigon boards have a more user friendly interface to change the board settings on a computer, but are a real pain to wire up.

On the flip side, Plector Labs' boards (like the Nano Biscotti and Cystal Focus) are a bit more involved to change settings (basically changing lots of numbers in a text file), they are a lot easier to wire up. I really like how the Crystal Focus has swing sounds that chain together, stab sounds, and "force" sounds (basically additional sounds triggered by pressing an aux button and either swinging, stabbing, or clashing), having 12 or more sound banks, color mixing, multiple on/off sounds depending on how you hold the saber, "Easter egg" sounds that trigger after a set of movements, and a bunch of accent LEDs (which can be set to act in a different parameters) seems like overkill to me.

The Nano Biscotti is nice (I'm putting a NBv3 in my Graflex 2.0), but it would've liked to have some sort of auxiliary sound like a blaster block, and its sound quality isn't as nice as others. Here's a video of Rob "Madcow" Petkau showing off the sound differences between Plector Labs' boards.

As for SF's Sabercore boards, I think they are a great user-friendly middle ground. They can power a quad LED (usually only available on high end boards unless you hack a NB, which I'm not sure how that works now that the v3 has the PEx built in), have an aux sound, and the flicker, volume, and sensitivities can be adjusted in hilt. Other boards have in hilt menus, but can only swap between sounds and colors; everything requires connecting to a computer.

Plus, according to what Phil has said about it, the 3.0 version will allow for swapping soundfonts via micro-usb and what he called "flare on clash", which I'm thinking will be like the NB's shimmer on clash, which I prefer to FoC (though I am wiring my Graflex up for FoC since I'm already using a Tri-Cree).

TL;DR: There are lots of soundboards out there, all with different levels of features and costs.

Jaden Korr wrote:
I ordered the all silver reborn. From looking at reviews and pics of the all silver model it looks as if part of the hilt has a dull finish with a texture?

If part of the hilt has a texture then will it be possible to add a powder coating like a gold or a black chrome that has a smooth finish?

All silver hilts should just be the bare aluminum, and maybe some silver anodizing, which wouldn't have a texture (and even if it did, it wouldn't affect the adhesion of powder coating). My what I meant by saying black anodizing would affect translucent colored powder coating was that you'd be able to see through to the darker spots where the black was/is. Though if you chose a solid color this wouldn't really matter.

Here's a link to some powder coating color examples from The Custom Saber Shop (SF's customs guys should have the same selection if not more).

If you'd like to know more about the process, here's a video of Ken Hampton (of Hampton's Handcrafted Lightsabers) showing how he powder coats his hilts:

My favorite version of the Reborn SF offers is the dual tone finish (as it looks closest to the saber it is based on), but I'd love to see how yours turns out!

SF dual tone Reborn (photo from Lucien Kane):


Revan' Lightsaber (source material):

Jk thank you for the info.

Im hoping my hilt and some other suff arrive before Sf customs start taking commissions again. Either way this saber will take a few months to complete. Ill post pics when its done. The wait begins....