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Light and Dark vs Jedi and Sith 6 months 3 hours ago #33396

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I was involved in a discussion elsewhere on the interwebs about a perceived problem with the Star Wars setting; the Force and its depiction, specifically. We were presented with this statement(emphasis added):
The Force and the Universe is more complex than Dark and Light. These are terms used by simpletons who can't come to terms with the moral quagmire and billion perspectives of events happening.
The simpletons referred to are the Jedi and Sith. My personal thought was that, the question being light or dark, not Jedi or Sith, their dogmas and philosophies don't factor in. You don't need Jedi or Sith to talk light or dark.

Then the assertion was made:
The only groups who distinguish between the Light and Dark side are the Jedi and Sith.
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the conversation itself can't be held without talking about it in terms of the Jedi and the Sith and how they view the Force.

That's the farce that has been established with the setting. Everything is good vs. evil with no consideration for anything between.

Personally, I staunchly disagree with the above notion. The Light and Dark sides of the Force are, in my view, tangible realities of its existence. The Jedi and Sith are simply appendages to how each side manifests, and these aspects would exist even if Jedi and Sith had never been created.

How does that factor into the "moral quagmire"? The same way as most any other choice people make in life. The difference being that Force-users are superhumans, and the use of their abilities is way bigger drop in the pool of moral choice, particularly when these abilities are fueled by particular emotions.

What do you all think? Do the labels of Light and Dark strip the setting of moral ambiguity? Is it possible to dig into the Force without the context of Jedi or Sith?
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Light and Dark vs Jedi and Sith 5 months 4 weeks ago #33428

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I read an interesting theory(I think it was over on reddit) that the final theme/episode of this particular trilogy will see Kylo and Rey, ie Dark and Light side, come together to have to deal with the pure evil that Snoke will become. It definitely made me think about the fact that we don't really have Jedi and Sith anymore an just have interpretations of the force instead.

I really like this as it could be an interesting finality to the balance of the Light vs Dark struggle we've seen for 6 movies now. Has it ever actually been balanced by anyone yet? It's probably a deeper meaning than we'll actually see but nonetheless I still like it.
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