I ordered the Redeemer Warrior in Cyan, 12 W. I spoke with Phil (?) I think through email a few times asking if I could get it without the activation box after the Exhalted came out and I saw that it was possible. He said no problem so I included these instructions in my order as he told me to, but it just came and came with the activation box, which is unfortunate.

Also, it has a covertec clip, which I didn't order but whatever. Other than that it looks just as I expected, very nice looking hilt. My questions for those of you who are more familiar with SF from previous order(s) are:

1). On opening the box, the switch was pushed ON but the blade was not lit. I assume that somehow in transit the button must have gotten pushed and the battery went dead. No problem there, it happens. But now I put the battery in the charger and plugged it in and the light is blinking red. It is green when the charger is in the wall but no battery, and when the battery is in, as I said, blinks red. Is this normal? Does this mean it is charging or indicate some other problem? (and just in case someone asks, yes, I made sure that the battery was inserted with the correct polarity)

2). This is my second saber. My first was one that I made from The Custom Saber shop. Nothing fancy, stunt saber again. Rebel Star LED, with a 3.7 volt battery and recharge port. Has anyone modified a Redeemer / Prodigal Son / Any SF Saber in such a way? Is it even possible? I would prefer to ask before I tear the whole thing apart. Which parts are unscrewable? So far I can only unscrew the pommel/insert and the emitter/bell. But it appears that pretty much the whole hilt is modular and could be taken apart though at this time they will not unscrew, and again I don't want to reef on a new saber hilt just yet.

So I guess I just want to know, if I wanted to replace the LED, battery, switch, add a recharge port, etc., Could I?

3). Most likely this is a question I will have to pose directly to SF, but I will include it in this post just in case someone knows the answer. In the pictures in the store it looked to me like the activation box is actually part of that portion of the hilt, but now that I see it it appears that I should be able to somehow remove it. It looks like it is screwed on somehow. As mentioned, I ordered it without the box, and it came with it, so I am sure somehow I could send the hilt back to him and he would take care of it, but I just wanted to see if anyone on here knew if that was something I could do. It will probably take considerable time to send the hilt back and get a correct one.

Thanks

Hi Dave,

I like to think of myself as this forum's resident thin neck guru, I have two redeemers, a prodigal son, and an exhalted

If you spoke with Phil and he said it's possible to make your redeemer without the box, and you included these instructions in your order, and it still arrived with a box, then this is an error on their part and they should be able to fix it for you for free if you ship it back to them with an RMA form off of SaberForge's warranty page. They are crazy busy during this holiday season, massive amount of orders coming in, and sometimes these details do get missed. They're only human, but in my experience Phil has been very good about ensuring customer satisfaction. So I suggest shooting Phil a quick email at This email address is being protected from spambots. You need JavaScript enabled to view it. regarding this issue and see if he can remove the box for you as originally requested.

Regarding the covertech knob, my understanding is that all of SaberForge's hilts come standard with the covertech knob (except for the prodigal son, which comes standard with the tri-clip).

As for the battery charging, I don't own any warrior hilts myself (I just have champions) so I'm not entirely sure how the removable battery works. All I know is that when I plug in my charger into the recharge port in my champion hilts, the charger light is a solid red until it is fully charged, when it turns solid green. I haven't experienced a flashing red light before, so unfortunately I can't comment on what that might mean.

In terms of modifying a SF hilt with recharge port, I just recently took a 12W warrior Justicar and installed a SaberCore Crimson soundboard with in hilt recharge port. This model of the Justicar was an older model, and so it was all in one piece, which made it difficult to install the electronics. But I got there in the end. The Redeemer is one of the modular hilts, and it unscrews in several places. Sometimes the threading is glued together which makes it difficult to take apart. This is an empty Redeemer hilt that I have, I unscrewed as much as I could. I know for a fact that the copper thin neck unscrews as well, and possibly the brass section too, but I think those two are glued and I couldn't remove them:




It may help to use a hair dryer to heat up the pieces to loosen the glue before trying to unscrew it all, if you decide to do your own installation. Just keep in mind that taking apart your lightsaber and messing with any of the internals will void your one year warranty.

So yes, it's certainly possible to install your own electronics if you wanted to, as long as you don't mind voiding your warranty and you're comfortable with doing all the soldering and drilling and whatnot

And yes, the activation box itself is removable, this is what it looks like removed:




Hope this all helps!

Wow. Thank you so much for answering so quickly and so informatively. I do have a few follow up questions though.

1). Am I right to assume that you tried your trick with the hair dryer for the copper and brass sections? And that it worked for all the other sections but not for those?

2). How exactly did you take the activation box off? Did you have to unscrew the pieces first, then loosen inner screws for the box? Or did you somehow slide the activation plate off, then unscrew from the outside? As of yet, though I haven't tried very hard, I was not able to slide it out.

Also, when I unscrewed the pommel insert I slid my fingers inside that part of the hilt (from about the pommel to about the middle of the activation box) and to me it felt like one solid piece, though I could be wrong.

Anyway, thanks again!

1. Honestly, I haven't really tried to take the redeemer apart completely. As I was typing out my original response to you, I thought "hey, let's just see how much of this redeemer I can take apart now and show Dave a picture". I used a hair dryer on the copper/brass thin neck components, but I didn't put too much effort into it. I wanted to respond to your message quickly. I know from previous experience that the copper part is supposed to thread off, I spoke with Phil directly about this months ago. I'm also assuming that the brass piece threads off, but it's possible that that piece is part of the black grenade section. I didn't have to use a hair dryer on any of the other parts that I unthreaded in the picture, however. I just put on some rubber gloves and twisted hard

2. That activation box was from my original redeemer, which I've busted up and experimented on since. I began with snapping off the two side rails on the top of the box, those are just glued on and can be snapped off easily. Then I pried up the activation card gently (mine was glued down because it was an empty hilt) and unscrewed the box.

And as far as I am aware, the portion of the hilt from the pommel to right above the activation box is all one piece.

Warrior edition batteries will blink red in the wall charger until they're charged. The first charge on mine took an overnight charge before the charger lit solid green.

Hope that helps,

A

Hey Mario!

Quick question for you and Saberforge:

If covertech knobs are now standard on sabers, why is there still an option to add a covertech knob for $10? Will that choice be phased out, or at least the price eliminated soon to simply leave the option to REMOVE the knob?

Thanks as always!

That's an option for the plastic clasp that goes on your belt. Since I have one I set mine to no, and all I get is saber, charger and blade (plus Allen key).

ARobb73 wrote: Hmm, that may be something that needs clarifying on the store page. I was under the impression that the $10 was for the belt clip and the wheel. Fortunately I do need an extra belt clip but that's just luck.

That is my understanding as well. If you go to the accessories page you will find the covertech belt clip for $10, so the drop down option for the saber is a convenient way to add the belt clip itself to your order. But yes, that is definitely something that could be clarified in the website.

I don't mind though, because I have several other MR sabers I've converted that I need belt clips for, so it's good to have extra belt clips

I misunderstood this as well when I recently placed my order. I declined the covertech option because I don't want the wheel on my saber at all. Is this something I can get removed?