**Blue Wielder wrote:**
**Sendu_Kojack wrote:**
How do we know that there is the start of a new wave? Is there any relevance in the waves? Like certain savers were in certain waves? I just don’t get the significance of saying that there are waves if there is nothing that makes a wave different from another.

Each wave has set odds on getting an upgrade.

1/100 super dope

4/100 really cool

10/100upgrade

85/100 the base features

I used hypotheticals because each type of box has different upgrades but the odds and tiers are accurate.

So as you may have already surmised, if you buy multiples of a single wave you can effect your odds significantly. Whereas if you buy 1 per wave your odds reset each time with each wave.

The only way for us pleebs to tell that a wave has ended is that there is a "sold out" notice for a short time.

Well it depends. The probability distribution changes actually. Say the wave is new and you are the first customer. If you buy 3 mystery sabers, then the chances of you winning a super dope is 3 x (1/100). But say you received your three mystery sabers and they turn out not to be a super dope. With the remaining 97 sabers left, say you again decide to purchase another 3 mystery sabers. Then your chances of winning a super dope is 3 x (1/97) = 3.09%, which is in fact slightly better than your first time. But in

__reality__ there is no way of knowing the second time round chances nor the first time chances because you don't have information about how many sabers are actually sold and which ones sold are which level.

In other words, the published odds are actually only true for the first time round when there are 100 sabers to begin with. Your actual chances changes as soon as someone else purchases a mystery saber before you. The change in probability each time could favor you in fact, depending on what it is you are expecting to win and how many are already taken up by previous buyers, if any.