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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42452

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OK, so I just looked at the Etsy page and the initiate tier Bane has gone! Not only that but the 5 different finishes that were available has now been cut to just the 1 (black with silver pommel and shroud).

Why the change? I can see this wrecking plans of many people (myself included). I was literally just about to order and empty hilt as a shelf queen/future install project but now will have to wait another couple of weeks bbefore I can buy a warrior edition.

Has this affected anyone else's plans?
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42454

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Chill dude, gotta chill. It's probably because they're already running out of the design and/or material. It IS a very popular saber and most likely that happened. As for the initiate missing, I don't know about that, sounds really weird to me. It's more of a technical error, very interesting indeed.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42571

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Phil stated on the FB page the other day, that the Etsy shop would be taking a vacation for awhile. As they sell through the current stock, they will not be replenishing for awhile. He went on to say that once they do begin to replenish the Etsy stock, there will be no option for changes - sort of an "off the shelf" model.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42575

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That makes sense, as the Etsy one is meant to be the faster shipping option if you didn't have tons of customization to have done.

Letting stock run down temporarily on Etsy as they restructure it internally also makes sense.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42577

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Don't forget that an empty Bane was an ASP perk for those who pledged $700+. I'm pretty darn certain that's way it's been so scarce these past few months.

Also odd, the Juggernaut is back in the etsy shop but only available in warrior and up tiers.
Phil stated on the FB page the other day, that the Etsy shop would be taking a vacation for awhile.
Personally I'm glad that SF has decided to put their Etsy shop in vacation mode, it's a sensible response to the bloated queue times.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42611

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It's sad for me, because Etsy is the only place I can get SF sabers. :(
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42625

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Initiates were pulled from Etsy because of a growing percentage of people not understanding the Initiate tier, and what it was, and opening cases/posting negative reviews/threatening the integrity of the Etsy shop -- too many cases, and Etsy can and will close the shop. We don't want that to happen, obviously, so cuts had to be made. Despite the fact that these listings were quite clear in what was being offered, people were not paying attention and purchasing Initiates, then opening cases claiming their orders were not complete, etc.

So in this case, it is literally a case of a few bad apples ruining an orchard. :(
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42626

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Thanks for the input, I guess that make sense.

Looks like the warrior tier Bane I'll be getting will get a custom paint job too!
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42634

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So they're not replenishing the Etsy shop with new inventory? That's disappointing, I wanted to use a code on one of the new apprentice sabers. Anyone know the time frame of the hiatus?
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42635

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That is extremely unfortunate and disappointing. Too many people who can't use their brains that ruin it for the rest of us...
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42644

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So we can't get Initiate for anything not listed on the main site anymore? Aww. But thanks for the update.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42651

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MusicallyInspired wrote:
That is extremely unfortunate and disappointing. Too many people who can't use their brains that ruin it for the rest of us...
Exactly, THIS is why we can't have nice things. THIS is why you have to read the FAQ, ugh I hate stupid people.
Sorry guys, this messes with my zen vibe. Stay chill bro, stay chill.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42652

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I am hoping they open up Initiate sales for people on the forums at least in the future.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42673

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Doubt it.

It was probably an issue with photos. They all show lit blades.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42679

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Knytiri wrote:
Initiates were pulled from Etsy because of a growing percentage of people not understanding the Initiate tier, and what it was, and opening cases/posting negative reviews/threatening the integrity of the Etsy shop -- too many cases, and Etsy can and will close the shop. We don't want that to happen, obviously, so cuts had to be made. Despite the fact that these listings were quite clear in what was being offered, people were not paying attention and purchasing Initiates, then opening cases claiming their orders were not complete, etc.

So in this case, it is literally a case of a few bad apples ruining an orchard. :(

What a shame. :angry:
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42875

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MusicallyInspired wrote:
Doubt it.

It was probably an issue with photos. They all show lit blades.

Good point.

I wonder if maybe they could do an etsy coupon code (like EMPTYSABER or ImNotAnIdiot) that could reduce the cost of a warrior tier item to an initiate one, and when they look at the invoice they'll know to only pack an empty hilt. Although this could lead to people accidentally getting a free upgrade if it gets overlooked.

I know a lot of people liked etsy because they could use multiple forms of payment and PayPal; maybe they could implement either of those into the main site (I understand that this isn't that simple of a request though).
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #42946

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For whatever reason PayPal is not an option on the main site. I can only hope that changes in the future or I'll be waiting for a long time to save up for at least a Warrior tier saber of some kind, international shipping, and customs costs. I will never own a credit card again. I don't believe in paying on loan.



Unless I get a prepaid credit card somewhere that can go that high.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #43161

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You can do what I do. We pay our Credit Card off every month. We use it just for the bonus points.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #43175

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Could always grab a PayPal Debit Card and use that on the main site.
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Where did the initiate tier go? 4 months 3 weeks ago #43176

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Not in Canada.
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