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Canonize ONE Legends Force Power 3 months 3 weeks ago #50379

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Simple as that. If you could have one EU/Legends Force ability made canon, what would it be?

My pick would be "Tutaminis" (Kinda silly name, though XD) or at least a broader range than what is seen in current canon. It's actually kind of odd, because it "appears" a couple of times in canon material.

Yoda uses it a couple of times in the prequels a couple of times.

It's possible that Vader uses it in the OT to deflect blasts from Han, but that could simply be a benefit of having robotic limbs.


Maybe the most extreme use we've seen is in SW:TOR



I think that last one makes for really powerful imagery, arguably stronger than watching Yoda absorb lightning. I'd like to see a Force user specializing in this skill in battle.
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Canonize ONE Legends Force Power 3 months 3 weeks ago #50380

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Borommakot wrote:
My pick would be "Tutaminis"

I'd agree; my Star Wars character I'm working on isn't a master of it, but ultizlies it to channel his opponents Force attacks/small blaster fire into energy for his use of Electric Judgement/Emerald Lightning (a.k.a. Jedi Force Lightning).
It's possible that Vader uses it in the OT to deflect blasts from Han, but that could simply be a benefit of having robotic limbs.

I believe he is supposed to be using this ability during that scene. Though he can't use Sith Lightning due to the robotic limbs.
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Canonize ONE Legends Force Power 3 months 3 weeks ago #50386

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Jaden Korr wrote:
I believe he is supposed to be using this ability during that scene. Though he can't use Sith Lightning due to the robotic limbs.

Makes sense. I'd always assumed it was just because his replacement limbs could take the punishment until learning about tutaminis. :P
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Would you consider Kylo's midair freeze of that blaster bolt an extension of this?
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Personally, probably not. Kylo's power actually came across as a stasis, bordering on time control; there are just so few other explanations for the bolt following its previous trajectory. I think Kylo's brought us an awesome new power!
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Canonize ONE Legends Force Power 3 months 2 weeks ago #50406

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Borommakot wrote:
Personally, probably not. Kylo's power actually came across as a stasis, bordering on time control; there are just so few other explanations for the bolt following its previous trajectory. I think Kylo's brought us an awesome new power!

I'd be surprised if Kylo's inconsistent Force skills extended to controlling time. To my mind it was a variant on the physical Force Telekenesis, the same force used to levitate rocks, but pushing against the Newtonian force of the blaster bolt. It doesn't really fit Newtonian physics as such, but it's not absorption because the bolt retains its kinetic energy.
Time control just feels unlikely.
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Gaelis wrote:
I'd be surprised if Kylo's inconsistent Force skills extended to controlling time. To my mind it was a variant on the physical Force Telekenesis, the same force used to levitate rocks, but pushing against the Newtonian force of the blaster bolt. It doesn't really fit Newtonian physics as such, but it's not absorption because the bolt retains its kinetic energy.
Time control just feels unlikely.

I agree that some form of telekinesis seems more likely, but is there any other way to explain the bolt continuing on after he releases it?
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From what I've read in the Sith Code, some Siths in the old times had to power to control and generate fire, just like they're summoning lightning. The flammes would scorch their opponents to the bones. That would be ana interesting power, hell yeah!
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Borommakot wrote:
Gaelis wrote:
I'd be surprised if Kylo's inconsistent Force skills extended to controlling time. To my mind it was a variant on the physical Force Telekenesis, the same force used to levitate rocks, but pushing against the Newtonian force of the blaster bolt. It doesn't really fit Newtonian physics as such, but it's not absorption because the bolt retains its kinetic energy.
Time control just feels unlikely.

I agree that some form of telekinesis seems more likely, but is there any other way to explain the bolt continuing on after he releases it?

To my mind it was an opposing force, like two cars being driven nose first into each other. When you remove one car, the other was able to shoot forward again. However, it would realistically deflect the bolt in that circumstance, rather than hold it in place.
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Canonize ONE Legends Force Power 3 months 2 weeks ago #50576

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Hi Borommakot, Everyone,

Tutaminis is not that uncommon even here on earth! Take a look at this Meme I never got round to posting, you may recognise the two gentlemen in the pic!



Yes that's SF Grandmaster Phil and his opponent, SF Master Lucien Kane! I almost forgot I had this!
Here's a clearer version:



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Gaelis wrote:
Borommakot wrote:
Gaelis wrote:
I'd be surprised if Kylo's inconsistent Force skills extended to controlling time. To my mind it was a variant on the physical Force Telekenesis, the same force used to levitate rocks, but pushing against the Newtonian force of the blaster bolt. It doesn't really fit Newtonian physics as such, but it's not absorption because the bolt retains its kinetic energy.
Time control just feels unlikely.

I agree that some form of telekinesis seems more likely, but is there any other way to explain the bolt continuing on after he releases it?

To my mind it was an opposing force, like two cars being driven nose first into each other. When you remove one car, the other was able to shoot forward again. However, it would realistically deflect the bolt in that circumstance, rather than hold it in place.

IMO, I agree that time control is a little farfetched for Kylo to have at his current state of time. Plus the energy of the bolt still crackles, so I wouldn't say he stopped it in time.

The car idea is a decent one, but I'm bothered by the fact that there would be no force driving the bolt to continue once the telekinesis is removed. In this comparison I would expect the bolt to disperse radially from the area Kylo held it rather than continuing in the direction it was going. You could explain this by Kylo "throwing" the bolt in the direction it was headed, but I'm not sure what the purpose of that would be.

My best guess is that Kylo is able to temporarily halt the velocity of an object. Once he releases his focus, the universe or Force "realizes" something is wrong and returns the bolt to it's previous velocity instantaneously. Since we're dealing with the Force here, this is entirely possible. The power wouldn't really be telekinesis, per say, but it wouldn't exactly be time control either. It'd be something in between only accomplished through a metaphysical power like the Force.

This power would require intense concentration, which would explain why he wouldn't exploit this in combat. Against Rey and Finn he needs to focus his rage on finesse with a saber, not relying on the grunt work of the stormtroopers to perform the bulk of the combat, preventing him from using the cheap tactic. In the case of Poe, Kylo was there as an interrogator, not a combatant. He needed to enforce the idea that he was infallible to make Poe break more easily. The effectiveness can be seen by the very visible affect the power had on Poe, who is dumbstruck by the suspended bolt any time it is within view. He just needed to walk in, kill once person to show off his lightsaber, then wait for the rebel to attack. After that all of his concentration could be used to hold the bolt, temporarily restrain Poe, speak 3 simple commands (Search him, Put him on board, Kill them all), and then board his ship. Something easily done in the situation, but not really feasible or useful in most others.

As a side note, I'm not sure if he restrained Poe using TK or by simply preventing his mind from letting him take action as a kind of paralysis/stasis. When I saw the movie I had the impression that Kylo's strength lied more towards messing with people's heads than other areas, so I would lean more towards the mental aspect.
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