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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65320

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Looking for a bit of advice or tips on converting my '05 MR Anakin hilt.

For the time being I plan to keep the hilt with the current MR electronics and just do a "standard" conversion on the electronics. However, I am going to be doing some mods to the actual hilt to improve the looks and functionality and I plan to eventually put different electronics in it.

So my questions are this:

1) Would going with a Tri-Cree LED be overkill when using the built in MR electronics?
2) What about just powering two out of the three LEDs on the Tri-Cree (leaving a White LED for future FOC?)
3) Can the blade the saber came with be rebuilt with blade film, or should I just get a new blade?
4) Any generic advice or tips for the eventual replacement of the electronics?
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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65322

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1&2) The MR Board only supplies about 1200mA of current. A single Cree will overdrive just fine on it, two will run well enough. No point in three. If you're going to be upgrading the soundboard later on, go with a rB/rB/W and wire the two Royal Blue up to the sound board in parallel, saving White for the new board.

3) The blade can get some film for display purposes, sure, but the plastic is softer than Polycarbonate and won't take a hit very well. Personally, I replace the blade but save the original to cut blade plugs from since it fits loosely in the tighter TCSS blade holders.

4) 1" PVC pipe slides freely inside the hilt. You can use it for the spacer between the blade holder and soundboard module instead of hacking up the stock plastic blade holder. You can also use it to fashion a chassis when replacing the electronics.

You'll also need to find a way to fit a momentary switch in the hilt if replacing the soundboard. Any single-button board will need a momentary. Most, if not all, of the dual-button boards can use the stock latching switch for ignition, but you'll still need a momentary for auxillary functions.
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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65326

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Kouri wrote:
1&2) The MR Board only supplies about 1200mA of current. A single Cree will overdrive just fine on it, two will run well enough. No point in three. If you're going to be upgrading the soundboard later on, go with a rB/rB/W and wire the two Royal Blue up to the sound board in parallel, saving White for the new board.

3) The blade can get some film for display purposes, sure, but the plastic is softer than Polycarbonate and won't take a hit very well. Personally, I replace the blade but save the original to cut blade plugs from since it fits loosely in the tighter TCSS blade holders.

4) 1" PVC pipe slides freely inside the hilt. You can use it for the spacer between the blade holder and soundboard module instead of hacking up the stock plastic blade holder. You can also use it to fashion a chassis when replacing the electronics.

You'll also need to find a way to fit a momentary switch in the hilt if replacing the soundboard. Any single-button board will need a momentary. Most, if not all, of the dual-button boards can use the stock latching switch for ignition, but you'll still need a momentary for auxillary functions.

Thanks Kouri.

1&2) kind of what I thought would be the route to go

3) good suggestion for blade plugs, hadn't thought about that

4) Also great to know!

5) Switch - My initial thought was to use a Graflex "red button" style switch as the auxiliary. My question there would be if that button placement would interfere with the LED, holder, or blade ( I haven't done one of these so no idea how things line up).
Most likely will use a Spark 2 as the new soundboard down the road.

6) Bonus question - Looks like the TCSS kit comes with the heat sink, but mentions a lens holder is required, is that the same thing as the casing around the "heat sink module"?
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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65328

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5) Not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to get very creative. The kit - used as intended - won't let you wire anything up to the fake button. There are 4-40 (if I remember right) screws running through the faux Graflex Button and Eye that are meant to hold the bladeholder in place. The hex screw by the emitter is replaced by a blade-retention thumbscrew.

When I converted my first Anakin, I replaced the thumb screw with an 8-32 button-head screw so that it and the eye would be responsible for locking the bladeholder in place. I then tapped the Graflex button screwhole with 8-32 threads and glued an 8-32 screw into the faux button so it would act as a discreet blade-retention thumbscrew. Using the button head to secure the blade holder also helps with wobble, as the conversion kit fits freely in the 2005 Anakin, and the plastic-chrome washers have some play in them (I wound up machining my own tighter-fitting aluminum replacements).

Plan is to eventually upgrade the LED and swap in a Nano Biscotte or Spark 2 with a tactile switch triggered by the gold greeble on the side of the control box.

My second one is in-progress and is supposed to be an Episode 3.5 Graflex - so I re-tapped the bladeholder with 10-32 threads. It's using a replica Graflex button and glass eye, but the button being a thumbscrew means I won't be wiring it up as a button unless I get creative. I'll probably just hide a tactile switch in the control box somewhere.

6) The Lens Holder is a separate component with legs for the 8.7 degree lens used on single-LED and center-mount stars. It's intended to keep the lens centered on the LED star. You won't need it on a Tri-Cree, since the Tri-Lens has its own legs built in.
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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65329

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"6) Bonus question - Looks like the TCSS kit comes with the heat sink, but mentions a lens holder is required, is that the same thing as the casing around the "heat sink module"?[/quote]"

When i did mine i did not end up using the heat sink that came with the TCSS conversion kit. I used a 6w LED from Saberforge which comes with the lens and the anodized black heat sink unit--which fit right into the metal TCSS blade/LED holder.
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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65371

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Kouri wrote:
5) Not saying it's impossible, but you'd have to get very creative. The kit - used as intended - won't let you wire anything up to the fake button. There are 4-40 (if I remember right) screws running through the faux Graflex Button and Eye that are meant to hold the bladeholder in place. The hex screw by the emitter is replaced by a blade-retention thumbscrew.

When I converted my first Anakin, I replaced the thumb screw with an 8-32 button-head screw so that it and the eye would be responsible for locking the bladeholder in place. I then tapped the Graflex button screwhole with 8-32 threads and glued an 8-32 screw into the faux button so it would act as a discreet blade-retention thumbscrew. Using the button head to secure the blade holder also helps with wobble, as the conversion kit fits freely in the 2005 Anakin, and the plastic-chrome washers have some play in them (I wound up machining my own tighter-fitting aluminum replacements).

Plan is to eventually upgrade the LED and swap in a Nano Biscotte or Spark 2 with a tactile switch triggered by the gold greeble on the side of the control box.

My second one is in-progress and is supposed to be an Episode 3.5 Graflex - so I re-tapped the bladeholder with 10-32 threads. It's using a replica Graflex button and glass eye, but the button being a thumbscrew means I won't be wiring it up as a button unless I get creative. I'll probably just hide a tactile switch in the control box somewhere.

6) The Lens Holder is a separate component with legs for the 8.7 degree lens used on single-LED and center-mount stars. It's intended to keep the lens centered on the LED star. You won't need it on a Tri-Cree, since the Tri-Lens has its own legs built in.

5) My plan was to take the Fake Red button (gold on this hilt) and drill it out, and place a 12mm switch into it which looks like it should just barely fit. But, with what you are saying that doesn't seem possible. My second though would be similar to what you were thinking were there would be some kind of activation mechanism under the gold card on the control box, push the card down and it triggers the switch.

Or maybe I just build out a completely different hilt....

6) Ok, that makes more sense.
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MR 2005 Anakin conversion questions 1 year 4 months ago #65373

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The gold button is actually separate from the rest of the chrome section. If you're willing to get creative, you could do something like:

1) Dremel a channel into the top of the blade holder to fit switch wires between the blade holder and hilt wall.

2) With the chrome button screwed into the hilt/bladeholder, drill a hole behind the screw and into the wiring channel.

3) Wire up a tactile switch and glue it into the empty chrome button. Feed the wires through the channel and use with a momentary-compatible board.

4) Trim the gold button to fit, and glue it to the tactile switch.
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Kouri wrote:
The gold button is actually separate from the rest of the chrome section. If you're willing to get creative, you could do something like:

1) Dremel a channel into the top of the blade holder to fit switch wires between the blade holder and hilt wall.

2) With the chrome button screwed into the hilt/bladeholder, drill a hole behind the screw and into the wiring channel.

3) Wire up a tactile switch and glue it into the empty chrome button. Feed the wires through the channel and use with a momentary-compatible board.

4) Trim the gold button to fit, and glue it to the tactile switch.

That could work. I'm also toying with the idea of perhaps selling it to fund a fresh build on a hilt for my kid. Any idea what they go for?
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