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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 3 days ago #33430

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Yeah!
Just saw that on instagram, that's all I wanted, a official statement of whats happening. I was not saying "come on slaves, make my saber now!" :P
So, february! I just got more excited about it :woohoo:
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 2 days ago #33493

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Seraphyn303 wrote:
There's an update on their face book page :)
Apparently they're currently working to establish legal safety conditions in their workshops and they hope to be done and ready to start shopping by febuary.
So.... Yay?

Yeah I'm a little confused about that. The last official update through the Kickstarter (12/14) stated that "we have finished 80% of our parts and only have pommels and a portion of our body sections remaining to be machined."

However the Facebook update seems to indicate that the machine shop hasn't opened yet pending OSHA inspection.

Those two seem to be mutually exclusive... Which one is accurate? I tend to believe the 12/14 update since it was posted through the official channel of KS updates by Phil vs this FB update by their social media guy. However, it's clearly sent the comments section of the KS into a greater tissy than it already was (which is saying something...)

Also Knytiri's post from December (who I believe works for SF) also seems to contradict the FB update..
Knytiri wrote:
ASP parts are pouring in currently. We still have to organize and QC all the parts recieved and will be finalizing orders (yes... some still haven't put theirs in and cause of the way kickstarter is... this delays literally everyone) and pulling and begin shipping within the next few weeks.

This update seems to me to cause more confusion then clarity...
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 2 days ago #33498

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I imagine it's along the lines of; they were working in their own way, getting the pieces in from where ever they're being manufactured currently. the business size suddenly became much bigger and therefore subject to greater scrutiny and in order to continue they had to comply to a set of rules they may have not been fully prepared for. That sounds reasonable to me.

The statement still says they'll be ready to ship once this process is out of the way. It doesn't really contradict the previous statement.
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 2 days ago #33499

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So true. I'm an IGG backer, but I visit the KS comments section regularly. Man, the reaction to that FB post was epic.
No matter what happens now, you shouldn't be afraid. Because I know today has been the most perfect day I've ever seen.
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 2 days ago #33520

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Ya i tend to wait until something is mentioned here before i go check the KS message board now its gotten pretty toxic in there.. Its like someone locked 10 toddlers in a toy isle with every toy they want out of reach. Which is to say lots of tantrums and not a lot of constructive conversation.

It seems to have calmed down for the moment now though in the aftermath of the update.
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 2 days ago #33523

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Sorry, I'm new. What's the KS message board? I know the TCSS board. The FX-Sabers.com board, the UltraSabers board, the RPF, the Dented Helmet, the 501st....what's KS? Google search of "KS message board" + "lightsaber" didn't turn up anything.

I ordered through the IndieGoGo campaign. Should I be worried that we're not going to get our sabers any time close to late February? I'm a 44 year old attorney, which I bring up simply to say that the whole OSHA thing sounds a little...weird. I'm not calling anyone a liar. Just now I'm a little worried.

Thoughts?
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 2 days ago #33526

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Hi ANorris,

I believe the KS Board refers to the Kickstarter message board SaberForge are on. It was set up to help fund the start of the whole ASP project. If you search for "Saberforge ASP Kickstarter" you may find a link for it. Unfortunately I couldn't afford to be one of the backers, oh well.

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ps I think this link is what you're looking for but it's for backers of the project.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1621134222/adaptive-saber-parts-make-your-dream-lightsaber-a/comments
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 1 day ago #33702

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Here's my understanding, taking all the updates as a cohesive whole, rather than contradiction:

ASP aluminum hilt components aren't machined in-house, but sourced from a large-scale manufacturer to keep costs down and supply up.

The Saber Forge machine shop serves other purposes:

1) Assembly of saber electronics (Not just ASP electronics kits, but also standard LEDs and sound boards available for sale right now, as well as wiring up the completed sabers currently for sale)

2) Machining of currently available and custom-order hilts

3) Sorting ASP inventory, as well as packaging and shipping all orders

4) Possibly weathering of ASP component (assuming parts come from the manufacturer only as standard silver or black)

So the shop safety upgrades aren't holding up the production of ASP hilt components (as those should be near-complete, if not already completed by now) - but inventory, sorting, electronics-soldering, weathering, packing, and shipping can't really be taken care until the SF Shop is up to code.

This might be a bit off base, but it's the best I can gather from my own experience as a machinist. Obviously someone on-staff could give a better explanation of things.
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 1 day ago #33707

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That makes a lot of sense. Thanks Kouri!
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Indiegogo and ASP 3 weeks 1 day ago #33761

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Kouri is a rare person on the interwebs...thoughtful and thinks about the whole picture. I don't work for SF and I am a IGG person. I am waiting like the rest of us. His assessment makes sense given the way they have described the process to date. Could SF give more information, of course! There is no such thing as enough information when you are waiting. Maybe if they installed individual webcams for each order to help you see it made live then people would be happy....oh wait, people would complain that is it staged....never mind....
Kouri wrote:
Here's my understanding, taking all the updates as a cohesive whole, rather than contradiction:

ASP aluminum hilt components aren't machined in-house, but sourced from a large-scale manufacturer to keep costs down and supply up.

The Saber Forge machine shop serves other purposes:

1) Assembly of saber electronics (Not just ASP electronics kits, but also standard LEDs and sound boards available for sale right now, as well as wiring up the completed sabers currently for sale)

2) Machining of currently available and custom-order hilts

3) Sorting ASP inventory, as well as packaging and shipping all orders

4) Possibly weathering of ASP component (assuming parts come from the manufacturer only as standard silver or black)

So the shop safety upgrades aren't holding up the production of ASP hilt components (as those should be near-complete, if not already completed by now) - but inventory, sorting, electronics-soldering, weathering, packing, and shipping can't really be taken care until the SF Shop is up to code.

This might be a bit off base, but it's the best I can gather from my own experience as a machinist. Obviously someone on-staff could give a better explanation of things.
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