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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 22 hours ago #49563

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Jesus this makes them even more expensive than most of Vaders Vault stuff 0_0
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 20 hours ago #49583

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This subject is starting to skew into shaky territory. Let's keep things from getting derogatory, or this one is getting the padlock.
Imagine what you will know tomorrow....
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 19 hours ago #49588

I think that most of the price increases seem entirely reasonable and justified besides the hero tier. I think the apprentice tier hilts were likely priced under market value previously, and the champion tier electronics had a reasonable hike in price too. The hero tier going up so much ($126) just seems absolutely crazy to me... some of the rationale I've seen folks use to justify increased prices in this thread is WAY off base too. Expanded production should bring cost per unit down, not up.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 19 hours ago #49592

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Salacious B Crumb wrote:
I think that most of the price increases seem entirely reasonable and justified besides the hero tier. I think the apprentice tier hilts were likely priced under market value previously, and the champion tier electronics had a reasonable hike in price too. The hero tier going up so much ($126) just seems absolutely crazy to me... some of the rationale I've seen folks use to justify increased prices in this thread is WAY off base too. Expanded production should bring cost per unit down, not up.

A new center means more overhead cost. Rent goes up, have to fill out equipment, hire more people. I think the prices raises are a bit high. Apprentice hilts up 50%, Hero tier up 126 on components, that while sometimes hard to find, haven't gone up over 100 dollars. A 5-10% flat raise would have made more sense and probably been taken fine vs this. Or even just a 10-15 % raise on the base hilt, being the part they make themselves.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 18 hours ago #49595

I was never that interested in the Hero tier anyway. Dimmer light (for sake of having more than one colour) and custom saberfonts is about the only gain. I can have all of that by buying MHS parts if I want. The dimmer light is the biggest factor for me, though.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 15 hours ago #49622

Our prices have gone up to cover new overhead costs detailed below.

-Higher quality and more expensive components we upgraded to in the last year, threaded blade tips, 2mm copper LED stars, 6W+ and 12W+ LEDs, 3A chargers, polycarbonate battery holders, silver plated wires, ect.

-Increased labor costs, 100% employer paid health care plan, 100% employer paid dental and vision plan, 4% employer matching 401k plan, PTO and sick time.

-New facilities and associated start up costs.

-R&D costs for new lit stands, flat profile blades, soundboard development, ect.

Hero level saber pricing needed to be revised for some time, we now have pricing for our multi font infinite color sabers with in hilt recharge that are competitive with similarly equipped sabers from other vendors using NEC or PL boards, although ours are still more affordable and BRIGHTER.
Last Edit: 2 days 14 hours ago by SFGrandMaster-Phil.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 14 hours ago #49625

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Thanks for the update, Phil! I'm sure everyone will appreciate the reasoning behind the price jumps. Just means I gotta work more for a bigger paycheck to get a quality saber!
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 14 hours ago #49628

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Thanks for the info!
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 14 hours ago #49633

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Lit stands? Maybe I should hold off on the Darklyte customs for a bit...if they're anything like those, I'll probably want one.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 14 hours ago #49638

We now have four 24"x36" 120w CO2 laser cutters and will be releasing the worlds brightest and most durable lit acrylic stands very soon. But thats just the beginning, we will be offering a whole line up of laser cut and etched products.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 14 hours ago #49640

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You guys have done a brilliant job expanding. The laser work, could make SF totally beyond others at this level. Congrats Phil and good luck.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 14 hours ago #49641

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SFGrandMaster-Phil wrote:
We now have four 24"x36" 120w CO2 laser cutters and will be releasing the worlds brightest and most durable lit acrylic stands very soon. But thats just the beginning, we will be offering a whole line up of laser cut and etched products.

I'm all for that. Between that and a handful of ASP sabers, I will be one happy Jedi.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 13 hours ago #49649

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SFGrandMaster-Phil wrote:
We now have four 24"x36" 120w CO2 laser cutters and will be releasing the worlds brightest and most durable lit acrylic stands very soon. But thats just the beginning, we will be offering a whole line up of laser cut and etched products.

Damn. Phil is not fucking around. He means business. Nice.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 13 hours ago #49651

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Thanks for giving us all an update. It goes a long way to have timely communication from you.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 12 hours ago #49662

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Super happy to hear about all the updates. The staff does deserve a pay increase for sure. Thank you for informing us Phil!
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 11 hours ago #49667

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Thanks for the info, Phil. I think it's awesome that you give your employees benefits like PTO, sick time, and 100% healthcare, that's awesome and I'll be glad to pay a little more on my next order to support things like that.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 10 hours ago #49681

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What we shall pay will be what quality we shall get, reading the list of reasons given above. It all makes good sense and look forward to SF taking saber creations to a higher new level.
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SFGrandMaster-Phil wrote:
We now have four 24"x36" 120w CO2 laser cutters and will be releasing the worlds brightest and most durable lit acrylic stands very soon. But thats just the beginning, we will be offering a whole line up of laser cut and etched products.

Whoo Boy, I wasn't even thinking of touching the stands but after hearing this...

My lightsaber suddenly looks like it needs a place to show off it's glory. I'm sold
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 9 hours ago #49687

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Well isn't that a bitch. I was just about to place an order for next December consisting of 12 sabers. I WAS going to have lightsabers for groomsmen gifts and a couple for my fiancé and I. Can't afford them now. Womp. There goes the main staple to our light Star Wars theme.
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Well, the prices just went up. 2 days 6 hours ago #49690

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Thanks a lot for the update, Phil! It's always nice to hear the plan for improvement every time there is an increase on the price, especially when it comes from the business owner him/herself...

I sense better quality and innovative products are incoming...Hopefully we shall have shorter lead time without sacrificing any quality as well...All the best! :)
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Our prices have gone up to cover new overhead costs detailed below.

-Higher quality and more expensive components we upgraded to in the last year, threaded blade tips, 2mm copper LED stars, 6W+ and 12W+ LEDs, 3A chargers, polycarbonate battery holders, silver plated wires, ect.

-Increased labor costs, 100% employer paid health care plan, 100% employer paid dental and vision plan, 4% employer matching 401k plan, PTO and sick time.

-New facilities and associated start up costs.

-R&D costs for new lit stands, flat profile blades, soundboard development, ect.

Hero level saber pricing needed to be revised for some time, we now have pricing for our multi font infinite color sabers with in hilt recharge that are competitive with similarly equipped sabers from other vendors using NEC or PL boards, although ours are still more affordable and BRIGHTER.
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