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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65351

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Hey, guys.

I've run into a bit of a dilemma. I plan on getting a Champion Tier Ares as a backup saber since my Katana is being sent into the shop for repairs. The thing is, I'm not sure what blade color to go with. I'm going for a lighter blue color (Light Blue, Arctic Blue, or Cyan) but I'm not sure which one to choose. So, here's the thing, I need some visual aid. If anyone has a iPhone 6s, a 37" V4 Infinity Edge blade, and a 12w+ version of any of the above mentioned colors, I would greatly appreciate some photos so I can decide which one is more aesthetically pleasing to me. Oh, also, when taking a photo of the saber blade, to boost the blade's brightness, the room should be well-lit, and the background should be black or brown so the blade color is enhanced. Here's one final photo of my Katana's 12w+ Light Blue on a black background to start off the comparison (and as an example).




Thanks, everybody.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65352

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Yeah, no iPhone anything here (let alone a 6s) so can't contribute plus, haven't received those colours. However have you thought about Quick Connects with your Ares to create more flexibility rather remaining firm with the Ordered choice?
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65353

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Possible, but, it's via their Etsy site. I'm not sure if they would be able to put Quick Connect options in the wires since their Etsy orders are all quick ship.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65356

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Those are the 12w color options, not the 12w+. If you look on the diodes they use for those modules you showed, they're Cree XB-D diodes, not the XQ-E ones on the 12w+ lamps. Plus, I'm decent with wiring and such, but, I am severely out of practice, so I might screw it up.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65358

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I don't disagree with you from the Listings Thumbnail reference Image however it isn't uncommon for SF with or without Etsy to use outdated images. Also am pretty sure all of the Watt LEDs coming out of SF are Pluses i.e. the XQ-E's. For certainty though, if you follow the link in Etsy to 'Ask a Question', a reply will likely come to you tomorrow.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65359

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I have those colors, Arctic Blue, Light Blue and Cyan. Photos are really difficult to do an accurate job.

So descriptions, words need to play, assuming a 37" V4 Infinity Blade:

- For brightest out of the three = Cyan
- For the most blue out of the three = Light Blue
- For the lightest blue out of the three = Arctic Blue

Arctic Blue = a perfectly clear sky blue but with a thin layer of white cloud and you are looking at that white cloud

Light Blue = Bluray plastic cover with a white sheet of paper inside the transparent plastic cover pocket

Cyan = in between the two

Of the three, my favorite is Cyan.
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So, is your Arctic Blue from SaberForge or Ultrasabers (the colors may differ depending on the company)? If so, what's the brightness scale from lowest to highest for the three blues and do they fully illuminate a 37-inch blade with no dull spots? Also, when did you get a SaberForge Light Blue? I haven't seen that video posted on your channel. Which hilts did you get in the Light Blue and Arctic Blue?
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KiakahiSonic7 wrote:
Those are the 12w color options, not the 12w+. If you look on the diodes they use for those modules you showed, they're Cree XB-D diodes, not the XQ-E ones on the 12w+ lamps. Plus, I'm decent with wiring and such, but, I am severely out of practice, so I might screw it up.
Further to my previous Post, had a look around on SFs Outlets, shopsaberparts sells the DIY LED Module assembly as well as Plug n Play LED Module, both referencing the XQ-Es (Watt+). The Etsy Saber Hilt description also references the Watt+ and I can see no logical reason why the older XB-Ds would still be in circulation (as early as February, all requests have been towards the newer Watt+ when it wasn't Official yet) other than as an outdated image and description reference (independently on Etsy and via Main Site).

For any obscure reason and if SFCS replies otherwise, to capitalise on the 10% Discount with current Promotion, if SFCS doesn't supply all from the one Outlet of Etsy, you have the option of getting the QC PnP units from shopsaberparts and just the Hilt from Etsy (if the chosen colour falls short to what you're hoping to achieve).

There's also every chance Ex66 is finding a Black (or Brown) back-dropped setting to knock-up a Video or photo session with what you've requested.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 4 days ago #65367

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KiakahiSonic7 wrote:
So, is your Arctic Blue from SaberForge or Ultrasabers (the colors may differ depending on the company)? If so, what's the brightness scale from lowest to highest for the three blues and do they fully illuminate a 37-inch blade with no dull spots? Also, when did you get a SaberForge Light Blue? I haven't seen that video posted on your channel. Which hilts did you get in the Light Blue and Arctic Blue?

I am referring to Saberforge only in my posts here. I have not done any Arctic Blue nor Light Blue videos yet. I got those LED Quick Connects etc. All LEDs were from this year and are 12W+. SF blues illuminate the 37" V4 Infinity blade evenly; sure the base is brighter than the upper portion but the overall effect should be what you are used to with your saber.

If you want the brightest light blue hue, then go get Cyan. You will like it. Arctic Blue is lighter than Cyan. Light Blue is deeper than Cyan.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 3 days ago #65376

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Get the quick connect options through etsy on whatever LED's you want. They will all work fine. Pretty much all their 12w LEDs are just the 12w+ now even if it isn't listed as plus. Like they only ship out the 12w+ LEDs now i'm pretty sure.

Also I have to say I have a champion Epoch with a Cyan 37 inch blade. I think the Cyan color looks exactly like the color of the sky. No matter how many pictures I looked at all over the internet (and I did a ton of searching when trying to decide on my color) No picture that I found looked right compared to what my saber actually looked like when it arrived. It is literally a "sky blue" and my wife and daughters agreed as well.

I was under the impression from pictures that it looked like more of a mixture of blue and green because it has the green dies in the LED and from looking at pictures I was really wanting a color that is closer to saberforge's "mint green". Many cyan pictures looked like that mint green color so thats what I thought I was buying. It looks absolutely nothing like the mint green color and now that my wife has a champion oracle with a mint green blade I can make the direct comparison.

Luckily I love the neat "sky blue" color that my cyan blade has so it worked out fine in the end. I also recently bought a graflex and redeemer through the ASP system and got them with Arctic blue for the graflex and medium blue for the redeemer. I have heard that deep blue has a hit of purple and I didn't want that for my redeemer. I wanted it to look like ROTS color blue, really deep blue but NOT purple in any way. So thats why I picked medium. I have to say though, it just doesn't look close enough to the right color from the movie. I might have to cave and buy a deep blue after all. Does anyone have any input on deep blue? Is it purplish? Does it match the ROTS obi wan redeemer color closer than medium blue does?

The arctic blue looks similar to my cyan blade but a slightly different shade of "sky blue". It doesn't quite look right on the graflex either so I may have to get a light blue. It sucks I struck out on both of these colors! I like the colors just fine, they look good, they just aren't quite accurate to the two screen sabers.

One final note in this long winded post- I just ordered the new Deep red LED for my big sith saber and I was so excited until I saw someone post a message from melissa at customer service saying that "deep" red has a tinge of pink to it. So now i'm afraid I screwed up again by not ordering medium red! Basically I'm going for the closest thing to the red we see on the movie screen for darth vader's saber, darth maul, etc etc. My regular red that I had with it to begin with is obviously orangish as you all know is the case with the original saberforge red color.

By the time i'm done I'll end up with every LED color saberforge makes! That might be good though because I honestly love every single color they have available. So far I have= Arctic Blue, Medium Blue, Cyan, Green, Red, Deep Red(incoming), Indigo, and a mint green in my wife's saber. I'm really wanting to order the yellow next but I feel like I don't really have a saber to "match" the yellow color very well. I may have to buy an entirely new saber to go with the yellow "Jedi Sentinel" theme but I'm not sure which saberforge saber might best represent that kind of theme. Any suggestions?
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 3 days ago #65379

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Thanks for the input. I'm probably going to try Arctic Blue or Cyan next. If you want to know what a Light Blue looks like on an iPhone's video camera, here are two videos I made that showcase it (one in a well-it room, and the other in the dark). The Light Blue will be similar to what you see here.



For the second video, skip to the 1:37 mark to just see the blade color.



Hope these help on your end.
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Thanks for the input, guys, but the saber I plan on getting is a Crystal Reveal Champion Tier Ares. I just received word from Isha, one of the sales reps that the quick connects are not compatible with the Crystal Reveal sabers. That's why I was asking for visual help with the three colors because I suspected that the crystal reveal saber would not be compatible with the quick connects (and, it turns out my original suspicion was correct).
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KiakahiSonic7 wrote:
Thanks for the input, guys, but the saber I plan on getting is a Crystal Reveal Champion Tier Ares. I just received word from Isha, one of the sales reps that the quick connects are not compatible with the Crystal Reveal sabers. That's why I was asking for visual help with the three colors because I suspected that the crystal reveal saber would not be compatible with the quick connects (and, it turns out my original suspicion was correct).
That actually changes a lot. Your starting Post suggested it was the non-Crystal version as there was no indication you were intending on a Crystal Ares.
I plan on getting a Champion Tier Ares as a backup saber since my Katana is being sent into the shop for repairs. The thing is, I'm not sure what blade color to go with. I'm going for a lighter blue color (Light Blue, Arctic Blue, or Cyan) but I'm not sure which one to choose.
However yes, QCs are not compatible. What was (hopefully) resolved from that dance though was the LED supplied as standard=XQ-E and not XB-D.

Seeing your action on your Videos and how you demonstrate your skill with the Hilt, I remain apprehensive though with Ares as your substitute over Katana. Your Katana's entire Hilt is free from any obstruction or snag-points. Ares has a Low Profile Switch Guard (which adds aesthetics) but IMO creates a snag-point. You wear gloves during combat which adds thickness to your grip too. The distance between the top of the switch guard to the base of the tsuba=61.52mm. Because you pair with a 37" Blade it would suggest your grip point is high for your primary hand rather than low beneath the switch guard. This observation is regardless of whether the switch is topside against your palm or underside against the fingers of a closed grip.

Ex66s RL analogy may be most accurate with colour description over image representation that will assist you with confirming colour choice. Unless of course you go a Custom LED like say BBGW but that defeats the purpose of Etsy's quick-ship whilst Katana is in the Shop.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 3 days ago #65387

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I can see where you're coming from. The whole purpose for me wearing the gloves is because the wings on the phoenix tsuba design have gouged my knuckles a few times. I always prefer to do a non-gloved grip when using a lightsaber, anyway.

As for the colors, I'm still none too sure. I'm gonna go with either Arctic Blue or Cyan Blue. I'm not a big green fan, so I'm trying to avoid it as much as possible. I'm trying to get as close to sky blue as possible without a green tint. That's why I'm kinda torn between the two. Cyan I know is naturally brighter, from Ex66's YouTube videos, but I'm not quite sure what the 12w+ Arctic looks like on camera. So, it's a bit tricky for me as well. In the future, though, if I get another lightsaber, I plan on making a custom color called "Air Blue" (named in reference to the sky where the air and wind are abundant) and I plan on using three blue and one white cree xq-e diodes (basically, the reverse of Frost White). Hopefully they can get it made.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 3 days ago #65403

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I don't believe there's any hint of green at all in arctic blue, even though it's a rBrBGG mix. When I bump the rB and G all the way up on my RGBA, there's not a slight hint of green; I don't have an actual 12+ arctic blue, but I would think it's close if not the same. If sky blue is what you're going for, then arctic blue is probably your choice. There's a picture what mine looks like in my CR Ares review.
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I don't believe there's any hint of green at all in arctic blue, even though it's a rBrBGG mix. When I bump the rB and G all the way up on my RGBA, there's not a slight hint of green; I don't have an actual 12+ arctic blue, but I would think it's close if not the same. If sky blue is what you're going for, then arctic blue is probably your choice. There's a picture what mine looks like in my CR Ares review.

I noticed. Your photo of the crystal reveal Ares with the Arctic Blue is part of what piqued my interest. I wasn't sure how accurate the colors were, though. Thanks for clearing that up for me.
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 2 months 2 days ago #65449

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I'm going to start by saying this is not a great pic. I had this picture while taking pics the other day. If I can get around to it, I'm going to try to do a side by side comparison, but for reference:



Top to Bottom:

12w+ Cyan
12w+ Arctic Blue
12w+ Medium Blue
6w+ Royal (Deep) Blue

My picture makes the Cyan look bluer than it is to my eye. I can definitely see a lot of green in it. I thought when I saw these blues together, I would have a definite favorite. Turns out, for me they each fit in their own way. Although I can say Cyan might be my least favorite, in my VERY humble opinion.


- RGBA+ Monarch, FW Epoch, Juggernaut, Exhalted
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SaberForge 12w+ Light Blue vs Arctic Blue vs Cyan 1 month 3 weeks ago #65877

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That 12W+ cyan really does look nice. I like its color compared to other cyan leds out there. Will look good on the saber I plan on getting this week ;o Would look good on any saber really even character specific sabers :P
Want: DT Epoch Green, Silver Knight Mint Green, Vigilant Deep Blue, Archon Deep Red, Gladius Amber, Phoenix Cyan, Justicar Medium Blue, Guardian Green...
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