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Dummy kill keys 1 year 1 day ago #43481

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Has anyone made or know where I could get a dummy kill key for the 2015 version of the Gladius?
I think it would look better if you could have the saber on while maintaining the two button appearance.
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 1 day ago #43497

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Interesting Q'. the recharge port mechanism requires for there to be a key inserted Into it to cut power to the saber. When the kill key is removed it reveals the recharge port. You want to know if there is a way to cover the port with a "dummy kill key" while the saber is on? Hmm
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 20 hours ago #43505

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Both are currently out of stock but may be available again in the future:

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Kill-plug-style-2-P570.aspx?ItemId=330631

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Kill-plug-style-3-P579.aspx

You can make your own with this:

http://www.thecustomsabershop.com/Kill-plug-style-4-P783.aspx
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 20 hours ago #43510

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The kill key only cut the circuit when fully inserted - the switch is at the bottom of the recharge port. I've seen a few guys make keys with a notch cut at the bottom. The key stays in the recharge port, but they'll twist it to enable/disable the circuit.
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 17 hours ago #43518

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I wonder if SF will ever sell the kill keys they make. I really like the knurled detail along the sides.
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Jaden Korr wrote:
I wonder if SF will ever sell the kill keys they make. I really like the knurled detail along the sides.

They do... I just ordered a handful so I have backups ready to go in case I lose them. I tried to get a couple weathered, and a brass (requested in order notes), but no idea if they sell those or just the standard finish. I will let you know if that request was honored when they arrive.

They're available at this link for $5/piece

http://www.saberforge.com/accessories/kill-key
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 15 hours ago #43528

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Is it just me, or are Kouri and I the only people that understood what this guy asked.?.!
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 14 hours ago #43545

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I understood, and actually may look in to how to modify them such that this can remain in the socket without making it an open circuit.

I actually like the way US wires their hilts better. I've seen minimal battery drain with a non-illuminated switch without a kill key, and really like the ability to power the LED for display while plugged in to the charger. The tradeoff is well worth it in my opinion.
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I don't think there's a feasible workaround w/ in-hilt recharge port. I could see using a latching switch in conjunction w/ a momentary switch. unfortunately the battery would have to be removed along with the in-hilt recharge function. The latching switch could open or close the circuit, much like the kill key would.
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 11 hours ago #43562

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Maybe I'm not understanding how the kill key works.
My presumption was that the kill key just introduced a bit if circuitry that opened the circuit, thereby interrupting the electrical flow. Wouldn't a key of the same size and shape without the circuitry securely fill the port without interrupting the circuit?
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There are no electronics in the kill key. It is just a piece of plastic on a metal knob that mechanically opens the circuit by forcing a micro switch in the recharge port to open the circuit. When removed the micro switch closes the circuit and power is sent to the board.
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How wide, and deep would the notch need to be? That sounds like my best option.
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Can't say, unsure of how deep it is. If you leave a modified kill key in, what would you do to keep it from rotating while wielding it. It would be in the way and subjected to contact.
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So I take it that the in hilt recharge port is not a micro/mini USB port? If not how so you access the soundboard and other user alterable features?
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Oh, I do want to thank everyone for their responses to my question. It is deeply appreciated.
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=Ottomatix= wrote:
Can't say, unsure of how deep it is. If you leave a modified kill key in, what would you do to keep it from rotating while wielding it. It would be in the way and subjected to contact.

A good question.

If the notch had flat enough sides, wouldn't the raised switch keep it from rotating?
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 4 hours ago #43621

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Salacious B Crumb wrote:
Jaden Korr wrote:
I wonder if SF will ever sell the kill keys they make. I really like the knurled detail along the sides.

They do... I just ordered a handful so I have backups ready to go in case I lose them. I tried to get a couple weathered, and a brass (requested in order notes), but no idea if they sell those or just the standard finish. I will let you know if that request was honored when they arrive.

They're available at this link for $5/piece

http://www.saberforge.com/accessories/kill-key

Apparently I had a brain fart...I even looked at that page recently. Thanks for pointing that out.
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Dummy kill keys 1 year 3 hours ago #43622

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Darth Vexing wrote:
So I take it that the in hilt recharge port is not a micro/mini USB port? If not how so you access the soundboard and other user alterable features?

Most sabers with soundboards that can swap soundfonts use a microSD card that pops out and you edit it on a computer. The current Sabercore boards (which are used on champion sabers) can't swap out soundfonts, but the blade flicker, volume, and swing and clash sensitivity can be editted in the in-hilt menu by holding down the momentary button while the saber is off. Press the button to cycle options, then hold to confirm.
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No its not a micro usb, it a 2.1mm round power plug. Most high end souncards are configurable via a micro SD card. Some offer an option called a rice port, which allows the user to hook up saber to a computer while the saber is active. Then you can change colors and settings on-the-fly.
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Darth Vexing wrote:
=Ottomatix= wrote:
Can't say, unsure of how deep it is. If you leave a modified kill key in, what would you do to keep it from rotating while wielding it. It would be in the way and subjected to contact.

A good question.

If the notch had flat enough sides, wouldn't the raised switch keep it from rotating?
I guess so but you must consider that the port itself is round and so is the kill key. Also it is slightly offset, not centered.
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