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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 15 hours ago #44104

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All that sounds pretty awesome, but i would love to se advances on the blades. Whith v4 we fixed problems with impact (tip flying off, blade dreaking, scratches and marks....) but... what about some kind of blade thats easier to transport or travel with? something retractable or sectional, that actualy could resist impacts for use or dueling.

That would be great, however I'm fairly sure that the gains made in convenience would be more that offset by visual flaws.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 13 hours ago #44119

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Two key areas are more development with LED making them brighter and more energy efficient, and more efficient batteries that fit into hilts. The rest are secondary. Car headlights now use LEDs and that's going to attract more R&D.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 12 hours ago #44131

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Bluetooth connection is something that would be revolutionary. LEDs and better batteries should be a natural progression and the industry standard. However Bluetooth is something new"revolutionary" that we haven't seen that much. I feel it's should be Primary.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 12 hours ago #44133

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I'm only just getting started with lighting design in new/renovated buildings, but I can say that LED's are definitely in demand. Energy efficient, easily controlled, small, and exceptionally bright, they make some terrific light fixtures. This means several things- better individual LEDs will be developed, better methods of dissipating heat will be discovered, and better diffusers to evenly distribute the rather focused lights from LEDs will be researched. Essentially, both the LEDs and the blades themselves will be better.

The best sign of this coming is that GE recently announced that they will discontinue their lines of fluorescent bulbs in the US and focus solely on LED lighting by 2017. Once they throw their full weight behind LED research things should develop at least a bit faster, and hopefully more people will be driven to retrofit the new fixtures (decreasing demand for flourescents, decreasing the costs of LEDs, and driving more R&D towards LEDs).
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 12 hours ago #44144

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I think it will focus on making sabers are cost effective, to expand the customer base. The new apprentice sabers are an example of that. We'll see higher quality, lower cost sabers to reach a greater number of consumers. 3d printing could help with this, as will improvement in LED technology.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 11 hours ago #44156

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The greatest trick to a sectional blade is that the durability decreases with each seem, and has a weak point at each seam or threaded junction. a retractable blade would be ok but if it does not fit in the hilt completely and is totally hidden from view then what would be the point. However a detachable retractable blade made in no more than 3 sections could be possible however it would still be pretty weak and probably would not hold up to dualing very well. the other disadvantage would be with the lighting and not seeing dark/light sections due to overlaps or threaded junctions.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 11 hours ago #44170

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Eddlyss64 wrote:
I've said this one before and I'll say it again, even though it has more to do with general saber revolution than just saber industry.

I can foresee a world where the common man traverses the streets with a lightsaber clipped to his belt. Though guns are still a thing, a public dispute with someone would be dealt with in a public duel between the two people. Problems would be solved by skill with a saber rather than how much money you pay your lawyer. It would be like the days of the samurai, days of honor.

I've said my piece.

Except Congress would never ratify a revision of the 6th Amendment like this. The justice system would be murdered; everyone's right fair trial would be dissolved due to the tyranny of the elite duelists. Not to mention that veryone who carries polycarbonate sabers would be dominated by people with guns which are protected by the 2nd Amendment.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 7 hours ago #44217

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SithLordLim wrote:
Eddlyss64 wrote:
I've said this one before and I'll say it again, even though it has more to do with general saber revolution than just saber industry.

I can foresee a world where the common man traverses the streets with a lightsaber clipped to his belt. Though guns are still a thing, a public dispute with someone would be dealt with in a public duel between the two people. Problems would be solved by skill with a saber rather than how much money you pay your lawyer. It would be like the days of the samurai, days of honor.

I've said my piece.

Except Congress would never ratify a revision of the 6th Amendment like this. The justice system would be murdered; everyone's right fair trial would be dissolved due to the tyranny of the elite duelists. Not to mention that veryone who carries polycarbonate sabers would be dominated by people with guns which are protected by the 2nd Amendment.

Suddenly I want to crawl into a hole and hide. Good Lord, you're right in so many ways.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 6 hours ago #44244

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Eddlyss64 wrote:
SithLordLim wrote:
Eddlyss64 wrote:
I've said this one before and I'll say it again, even though it has more to do with general saber revolution than just saber industry.

I can foresee a world where the common man traverses the streets with a lightsaber clipped to his belt. Though guns are still a thing, a public dispute with someone would be dealt with in a public duel between the two people. Problems would be solved by skill with a saber rather than how much money you pay your lawyer. It would be like the days of the samurai, days of honor.

I've said my piece.

Except Congress would never ratify a revision of the 6th Amendment like this. The justice system would be murdered; everyone's right fair trial would be dissolved due to the tyranny of the elite duelists. Not to mention that veryone who carries polycarbonate sabers would be dominated by people with guns which are protected by the 2nd Amendment.

Suddenly I want to crawl into a hole and hide. Good Lord, you're right in so many ways.
:pinch:

2nd Amendment FTW
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 6 hours ago #44247

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CallMeMistaJ wrote:
Eddlyss64 wrote:
SithLordLim wrote:
Eddlyss64 wrote:
I've said this one before and I'll say it again, even though it has more to do with general saber revolution than just saber industry.

I can foresee a world where the common man traverses the streets with a lightsaber clipped to his belt. Though guns are still a thing, a public dispute with someone would be dealt with in a public duel between the two people. Problems would be solved by skill with a saber rather than how much money you pay your lawyer. It would be like the days of the samurai, days of honor.

I've said my piece.

Except Congress would never ratify a revision of the 6th Amendment like this. The justice system would be murdered; everyone's right fair trial would be dissolved due to the tyranny of the elite duelists. Not to mention that veryone who carries polycarbonate sabers would be dominated by people with guns which are protected by the 2nd Amendment.

Suddenly I want to crawl into a hole and hide. Good Lord, you're right in so many ways.
:pinch:

2nd Amendment FTW

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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 5 hours ago #44249

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I've been thinking on this topic for a bit, and while not everybody might want this, I'd love it (if it could work).

One small thing that has bugged me about both the toys and prop/replica lightsabers I've had is that the sound comes from the bottom of the hilt, when the thing that is making the sound (i.e. the blade) is at the top. Now I know this is due to wiring logistics, resonance, and the size of the speakers required for quality sound needing space (which in the case of most high quality sabers, nearly the ID of the hilt itself).

Now my idea is for a speaker that is just small enough to be able to be placed higher up in saber (like near the LED or the upper part of a crystal chamber) that wires for other things could be run around it without interference (perhaps through holes in the edges of the speaker holder), but still be able to deliver the same power and sound quality. Small sound holes could be discreetly hidden in the hilt ( or even used in the design, like a crystal chamber), and the pommel still could be vented as well. Heck the speaker in my Graflex 2.0 on full volume, which is pressed up against the pommel, still manages to push a significant amount of air (and thus sound) out of any openings in the hilt (like the extra grip holes the clamp hides). So much so I had to drop the volume down by 50%.

There are probably already speakers that fit this bill out there in size, power, and quality, but they're probably not common place enough that they'd be a good option for saber building.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 4 hours ago #44262

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An evolution in battery technology (which is WAY overdue) could allow for more powerful lighting, though if they get much brighter, they will be a blinding hazard! Alternatively, it could allow for existing LEDs to go for much longer without the need for a charge. Imagine making it through an entire Con without running out of juice!
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 4 hours ago #44263

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I think the biggest potential growth is in the boards. Cheaper boards and more functions. There are tons of things that are used in quad-copter drones and aviation hobbies that are already miniaturized and available that just haven't been tapped yet. More complex/accurate Accelerometer setups, gyroscopes, radio or Bluetooth signals, better/more audio and lighting options. There doesn't seem to be a ton of competition in the board market and all this extra attention should really push the envelope there. Especially since all the "good" boards are usually out of stock or snatched up fast.

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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 2 hours ago #44281

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Eddlyss64 wrote:
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Eddlyss64 wrote:
I've said this one before and I'll say it again, even though it has more to do with general saber revolution than just saber industry.

I can foresee a world where the common man traverses the streets with a lightsaber clipped to his belt. Though guns are still a thing, a public dispute with someone would be dealt with in a public duel between the two people. Problems would be solved by skill with a saber rather than how much money you pay your lawyer. It would be like the days of the samurai, days of honor.

I've said my piece.

Except Congress would never ratify a revision of the 6th Amendment like this. The justice system would be murdered; everyone's right fair trial would be dissolved due to the tyranny of the elite duelists. Not to mention that veryone who carries polycarbonate sabers would be dominated by people with guns which are protected by the 2nd Amendment.

Suddenly I want to crawl into a hole and hide. Good Lord, you're right in so many ways.
:pinch:

Still, our current system is still stacked in favor of the elite. Political and social reform, in my opinion, is long overdue. I don't think that saber duels are the exact way to go though. :)
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 2 hours ago #44282

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Jaden Korr wrote:
I've been thinking on this topic for a bit, and while not everybody might want this, I'd love it (if it could work).

One small thing that has bugged me about both the toys and prop/replica lightsabers I've had is that the sound comes from the bottom of the hilt, when the thing that is making the sound (i.e. the blade) is at the top. Now I know this is due to wiring logistics, resonance, and the size of the speakers required for quality sound needing space (which in the case of most high quality sabers, nearly the ID of the hilt itself).

Now my idea is for a speaker that is just small enough to be able to be placed higher up in saber (like near the LED or the upper part of a crystal chamber) that wires for other things could be run around it without interference (perhaps through holes in the edges of the speaker holder), but still be able to deliver the same power and sound quality. Small sound holes could be discreetly hidden in the hilt ( or even used in the design, like a crystal chamber), and the pommel still could be vented as well. Heck the speaker in my Graflex 2.0 on full volume, which is pressed up against the pommel, still manages to push a significant amount of air (and thus sound) out of any openings in the hilt (like the extra grip holes the clamp hides). So much so I had to drop the volume down by 50%.

There are probably already speakers that fit this bill out there in size, power, and quality, but they're probably not common place enough that they'd be a good option for saber building.

I love the idea of this. Perhaps a tubular (so the wiring for the LED can fit through) speaker that sits just below the LED? I'm not too comfortable with the small sound holes, so I'd try to use windows in the hilt to also function as vents or something.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 28 minutes ago #44293

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Snakeeyz99 wrote:
I'm only just getting started with lighting design in new/renovated buildings, but I can say that LED's are definitely in demand. Energy efficient, easily controlled, small, and exceptionally bright, they make some terrific light fixtures. This means several things- better individual LEDs will be developed, better methods of dissipating heat will be discovered, and better diffusers to evenly distribute the rather focused lights from LEDs will be researched. Essentially, both the LEDs and the blades themselves will be better.

The best sign of this coming is that GE recently announced that they will discontinue their lines of fluorescent bulbs in the US and focus solely on LED lighting by 2017. Once they throw their full weight behind LED research things should develop at least a bit faster, and hopefully more people will be driven to retrofit the new fixtures (decreasing demand for flourescents, decreasing the costs of LEDs, and driving more R&D towards LEDs).

Agree.

I don't think Bluetooth is that big a deal. A saber is all about the hilt design (within SF's control), the LED brightness and sound, which mean an efficient energy source for maximum output (light and sound volume) are the very core of further development. Bluetooth is a "creature comfort" feature that doesn't add to a saber when it is in full use (i.e. switched on in your hands as a saber).
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 18 minutes ago #44294

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Bluetooth sound transmission.!.?

^ This.
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 3 days 7 minutes ago #44295

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Execute66 wrote:
Snakeeyz99 wrote:
I'm only just getting started with lighting design in new/renovated buildings, but I can say that LED's are definitely in demand. Energy efficient, easily controlled, small, and exceptionally bright, they make some terrific light fixtures. This means several things- better individual LEDs will be developed, better methods of dissipating heat will be discovered, and better diffusers to evenly distribute the rather focused lights from LEDs will be researched. Essentially, both the LEDs and the blades themselves will be better.

The best sign of this coming is that GE recently announced that they will discontinue their lines of fluorescent bulbs in the US and focus solely on LED lighting by 2017. Once they throw their full weight behind LED research things should develop at least a bit faster, and hopefully more people will be driven to retrofit the new fixtures (decreasing demand for flourescents, decreasing the costs of LEDs, and driving more R&D towards LEDs).

Agree.

I don't think Bluetooth is that big a deal. A saber is all about the hilt design (within SF's control), the LED brightness and sound, which mean an efficient energy source for maximum output (light and sound volume) are the very core of further development. Bluetooth is a "creature comfort" feature that doesn't add to a saber when it is in full use (i.e. switched on in your hands as a saber).
Just imagine your next video in the pool room, Broadcast via Bluetooth so we can actually hear the saber. Full on theater sound would be pretty awesome. Wearing a portable speaker under you cosplay robe to reinforce the sound. B)
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What will be the next saber industry revolution? 2 days 21 hours ago #44318

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I would love to see some touch properties on the blade. Maybe with a few leds scattered along the blade we could have a nice flash on clash feature, with the closest led to the impact point flashing :p
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