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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32340

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I can't help too much but what I do know is that ASP Sabers were all supposed to be 12W+. How that affects current orders I don't know, sorry.
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32341

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evangelion_jeff wrote:
I'm looking into buying my first saber and I noticed this change as well. I e-mailed them asking if I can get the 12W+ if I order a new saber right now and just got this reply today:

"Hello! Just select the 12W when you place your order. The 12W has been replaced with the 12W+."

I'm a newbie here so this might be a stupid question, but is there anyway to know whether it's 12W or 12W+ once I get it?

I rather wait a couple weeks more to the end of January, by then I hope all this 12w+, ASP, new site whatevers are all formally announced.
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32343

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Is the price for sending a saber in for a LED upgrade after 12w+ released still 25 dollars? I plan on upgrading soon.
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32353

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I sent in my one saber for some changes to the electronics, among them 12w+ LED. SF hasn't been in contact with me about the changes, other than my initial quote. I didn't know when it would ship back to me, and it turns out the post office tried Monday and left a slip about it. Apparently, no ones checked the mail since then and I requested a redelivery for today.

I'll post an update when I receive it if they gave me 12w+ or not.
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32370

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I'm still not sure who to believe because a couple months ago Knytiri flat out said "The 12W+ Will not replace the 12W. It will release at the same time as the ASP and will be available for an additional $5 instead of $25". But yesterday Melissa told me the exact opposite (that 12W+ has replaced 12W).

https://saberforgeforum.com/forum/open-topics/2026-12w#23020
Last Edit: 4 months 2 weeks ago by evangelion_jeff. Reason: Typo
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32387

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Let me start by saying i am not from saberforge so i may be wrong.

My understanding is the 12w+ LED unit uses the same 4 LED configuration but are arranged in a closer pattern with either a new lense or just being closer to center allows better control/angle of the light beam.

I expect as a business they have a certain amount of stock of the 12w LEDs to use that are still a wonderful product. So there is no reason to throw that stock away when you can sell it.

I imagine that once that stock is depleted everything will become 12w+ as there is likely not enough of a diffrence in material cost to justify re-ordering parts for the original 12w in order to offer both options.

As for changes to orders. I think i read somewere that PayPal disliked how they were handling the addon costs of order changes so that may no longer an option for them. Also they are so swamped they may have stoped allowing after sale customizations to simplify their process since they are so swamped with work at the moment.

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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32392

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That was my thought as well Artair, which is why I was surprised Melissa told me "Just select the 12W when you place your order. The 12W has been replaced with the 12W+.". I have a funny feeling if I do that right now I'm going to get a 12W, not a 12W+. I might just hold off for now rather than roll the dice.
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32394

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There's a few other key differences between the 12W and 12W+. The upgrade is, I believe, based around transitioning to Cree XB-D LEDs to Cree XP-E LEDs, which have higher luminous flux ratings and a tighter viewing angle but are twice the size and ~$0.60 more expensive per unit.
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12w+ 4 months 2 weeks ago #32542

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evangelion_jeff wrote:
I'm looking into buying my first saber and I noticed this change as well. I e-mailed them asking if I can get the 12W+ if I order a new saber right now and just got this reply today:

"Hello! Just select the 12W when you place your order. The 12W has been replaced with the 12W+."

I'm a newbie here so this might be a stupid question, but is there anyway to know whether it's 12W or 12W+ once I get it?

That is awesome!
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12w+ 4 months 1 week ago #33260

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Another good news for customers : I ordered 3 weeks ago and this is an email i sent to saberforge : I learned about 12w+ LEDs after ordering but i didnt found the way to chose it during the order. I ordered everything in 12w ( the two with the sabers are cyan and a mint and another blood orange LED in addition ) will it be the new 12w+ or is that possible to change for it ?

The answer : Hello!  If you ordered 12W, you will receive 12W+.

So this is a good new and i think saberforge should be more precise on the website ( the FAQ about LEDs is not updated for example )
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12w+ 4 months 1 week ago #33269

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There's a lot of stuff on the main site that could use an update; IIRC, Knytiri said something about releasing a complete overhaul of the website for the launch of ASP. Odds are the site is being maintained at a bare-bones level so they can focus on the development of the new one instead.
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12w+ 4 months 1 week ago #33347

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Soo my 12W will be a 12W+ without request now? I requested by email and they seemed confused as to what I meant which was odd because I requested the upgrade on another order a month before without issue... hope its the case because I dont think I can get them to understand what Im requesting which is the go ahead to send them money if necessary xD
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12w+ 4 months 1 week ago #33382

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rockinfrenzy wrote:
Another good news for customers : I ordered 3 weeks ago and this is an email i sent to saberforge : I learned about 12w+ LEDs after ordering but i didnt found the way to chose it during the order. I ordered everything in 12w ( the two with the sabers are cyan and a mint and another blood orange LED in addition ) will it be the new 12w+ or is that possible to change for it ?

The answer : Hello!  If you ordered 12W, you will receive 12W+.

So this is a good new and i think saberforge should be more precise on the website ( the FAQ about LEDs is not updated for example )

This is amazing news.
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12w+ 4 months 1 week ago #33429

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I ordered a 12W yellow consular on the first of December, I wonder if this will apply to me too or not
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12w+ 4 months 1 week ago #33484

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And I a 12w medium blue Venomous Fury on the 14th of December. The upgrade would be nice, but I don't expect them to upgrade orders that had elf easy been placed.
The above post may be subject to editing. A lot of editing.
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